| Joinder of Claims and Parties | Version 05/01/2009 |
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David S. Welkowitz
Professor of Law
Whittier College School of Law
dwelkowitz@law.whittier.edu
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Approximate Completion Time: 20-45 minutes for each section, 4.75 hours
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This lesson is designed to help students learn the principles of joinder under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. It is designed to be used in different ways. Students may use it as a tutorial to accompany assigned readings, as a supplement to reinforce concepts discussed in class, or as a review before exams. The program is interactive, requiring the student to respond to various questions and hypotheticals to learn the principles embodied in the rules. It does not assume any specific knowledge of the joinder rules—it is designed to teach the rules from scratch.
The program uses hypertext links between various parts of the program. These links offer students options in navigating through the program so they are not forced to follow a particular order. The user is the master of the organization. All of the rules and statutes that are needed are available as part of the program and may be viewed at any time by selecting an on-screen button.
The program includes units on a variety of joinder topics: Claim Joinder (Rule 18); Party Joinder (Rule 20); Counterclaims; Cross-claims; Third-Party Claims (Rule 14); Compulsory Joinder (Rule 19); and Intervention (Rule 24). It also contains an extensive unit devoted to the Subject Matter Jurisdiction problems raised by these rules. Finally, there is a review unit to allow the user to apply the principles learned in the lesson. The program is not tied to the organization of any particular civil procedure text.
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11/10/2005 DQ deleted language about this being a unique tool for learning.
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Joinder - In General
(Throughout this program we will be discussing joinder under the Federal Rules. Use the Rules button to the right to see any of the rules.) I assume that you are familiar with the simple lawsuit. It can be visualized like this:
P v. D
Just one plaintiff against one defendant, with one claim being asserted (say, for breach of contract) by the plaintiff against the defendant.
But the real world is not always so simple.
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Suppose a person (P) injured in a car accident wants to bring two claims - one for personal injury and one for damage to the car. Can both be brought in the same lawsuit, and, if so, by what authority?
Or suppose there were a three car accident and P wanted to sue both other drivers (D1 and D2) in one lawsuit. Perhaps a passenger in P's car (A) would like to join her claim with P's, and both want to sue D1 and D2 in the same suit. Can they do it?
(It can get even worse. The defendants may want to sue each other or sue the plaintiff. However, we'll leave discussion of CROSS CLAIMS ("Cross: Pop-Up") and COUNTERCLAIMS ("Counterclaims: Pop-Up") for later.)
In order for claims and/or parties to be added to a lawsuit, several requirements must be met...
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First there must be authority under one of the Federal Rules to add the claim or party. Second there must be SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION. (For the main claim[s] of plaintiffs against defendants VENUE ("Venue") also must be proper.)
And of course, there must be personal jurisdiction ("Personal Jurisdiction") over the parties added to the lawsuit.
The first requirement - authority under the rules - is the main subject of this program. We also will discuss problems of subject matter jurisdiction over the joined claims. Personal jurisdiction and venue will be left for your classroom discussion.
For now let's return to our auto accident victim who wants to sue two defendants for personal injury and property damage.
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The situation presents two different joinder problems. When P wants to sue for both personal injury and property damage in the same lawsuit, that's claim joinder. When P wants to sue two separate defendants in the same lawsuit (or when two or more plaintiffs want to sue one or more defendants) that's party joinder. '
Now we can explore claim and party joinder in more detail. Choose a button to continue
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12/29/05 Rachael - Corrected statement to say personal injury instead of personal jurisdiction
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CLAIM JOINDER
When P has more than one claim against D, P would like to know whether all those claims may be joined in one lawsuit. That certainly would seem to make life simpler for P. Where would you look to see whether there is authority to bring multiple claims in one suit?
How about the Federal Rules? In particular, Rule 18 ("Rule 18") governs the joinder of claims in federal court.
Before we go any further, why don't you take a look at Rule 18 ("Rule 18") .
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Now let's suppose that plaintiff (P) was in a car accident with the defendant (D). Suppose further that P had also loaned D $100,000, which had not been repaid. Assuming that subject matter jurisdiction exists, can P join claims for personal injury from the car accident with the claims for the loan in the same lawsuit?
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So Rule 18 allows all claims, no matter how unrelated, to be joined. You might wonder why the rule permits such a mess state of affairs. Well, consider this example. As above, D owes P $100,000 on a loan. When P goes to D's house to collect, they get into an argument and D hits P, causing injuries. Are these two claims (for the loan and the personal injury) sufficiently "related" to be joined? Perhaps, but in close cases like this there would be a great deal of litigation about whether the claims are sufficiently related to be joined. The tradeoff for Rule 18's broad simplicity is potential messiness.
There is some help in the Rules for this problem. If you look at RULE 42(b) ("Rule 42(b)") , you will see that it permits the court to separate unrelated claims for trial.
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Now we have established that our plaintiff may bring more than one claim in the same lawsuit. If plaintiff has more than one claim, MUST they all be brought in one suit?
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Rule 18 says a party "may join" all claims. It does not require that all available claims be joined. Try again. |
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Because Rule 18 says a party "may join" claims against an opposing party the rule itself does not compel the joinder of all claims. However, if the claims are sufficiently related, the doctrine of claim preclusion (or res judicata) sometimes may force the party to join the claims. After feedback jump to "Claim 5". |
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Because Rule 18 says a party "may join" claims against an opposing party the rule itself does not compel the joinder of all claims. However, if the claims are sufficiently related, the doctrine of claim preclusion (or res judicata) sometimes may force the party to join the claims. After feedback jump to "Claim 5". |
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There is another principle that limits a litigant's ability to join claims - SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION. The federal court must have subject matter jurisdiction over each claim joined. Any claims lacking jurisdiction will be dismissed. You can go to the Subject Matter Jurisdiction by returning to the Table of Contents ("Contents") and choose the Subject Matter Jurisdiction link, or wait until later to learn about the problems of jurisdiction.
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3/20/2008 ACG removed direct link to subject matter jurisdiction to avoid non-linear jumping around in lesson for students, potentially without their knowledge where within the lesson they are jumping. Making these a link to the table of contents instead.
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Remember that Rule 18 only deals with the question whether multiple claims between two opposing parties may be joined in one suit, not whether those claims are legitimate claims!
Now you have the basics. We will use these principles later in our discussions of Counterclaims, Cross Claims, Third Party Claims (all three of which are accessible through the Table of Contents) and other situations in which claims may be joined. You may go to those discussions now if you like or you can click next and go on to Party Joinder through the Table of Contents.
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3/20/2009 ACG Again, replaced direct links to sections to keep a frame of reference for students.
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PARTY JOINDER - In General
This section will address general concepts of party joinder. Specific topics such as adding Third-Party Defendants, Compulsory Joinder of parties (both accessible through the Table of Contents ("Contents") ) and additional parties under Rule 13(h) ("Rule 13(h)") are discussed elsewhere in this tutorial.
Party joinder means just what it says -- the addition of parties to a lawsuit. One may wish to join parties at the outset of the lawsuit or later on, when the suit is already in progress.
If you worked through the earlier part of the program you will recall the plaintiff (P) who was involved in a car accident with two other cars driven by D1 and D2.
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If P wants to join D1 and D2 as defendants in one lawsuit for personal injuries suffered in the car accident, is the joinder permitted under the federal rules? The plaintiff's attorney would look to RULE 20 ("Rule 20") for the answer -- and you should, too.
After looking at the rule, do you think it permits P to join the defendants?
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Very good. In a moment, we will explore the reasons. For now, go to the next page. After feedback jump to "Party 3". |
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Let's test your knowledge some more. Suppose P has a claim against D1 for a federal antitrust violation and one against D2 for an unrelated violation of the federal civil rights laws. If those are P's only claims against D1 and D2, could both defendants be joined by P in the same suit?
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Perhaps you need to review again the dual requirements of Rule 20: (1) The claim against the defendants must arise from the same transaction, occurrence or series of transactions; (2) There must be a common question of law or fact. Here, the claims against each defendant are totally unrelated and there is no common issue of law or fact. |
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Good. I see you are catching on to the requirements of the rule. Let's go on. After feedback jump to "Party 4". |
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Unlike Rule 18, for example, which allows unlimited claim joinder, Rule 20 does not permit an unlimited joinder of parties. Before burdening the court and the parties with multiple party litigation the rule requires a certain degree of relatedness as evidenced by the two factors in the rule. Only if both factors are met will the joinder be permitted.
Rule 20 does not override the operation of other joinder restrictions such as Subject Matter Jurisdiction, Venue, and Personal Jurisdiction (all accessible through the Table of Contents or Index) so remember to check for them as well.
Now let's try another hypothetical.
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Suppose P, the car accident victim, was the driver of one of the cars, and A was a passenger in P's car. P and A would like to sue D1 in one suit, claiming that D1 was responsible for P's and A's injuries. (P and A are not related.) Can P and A jointly sue under Rule 20?
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Suppose P and A would like to sue both D1 and D2 (from the original auto accident hypothetical) all in one suit. Does Rule 20 permit that?
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Right. The rule permits multiple plaintiffs with related claims against multiple defendants to join in one suit. After feedback jump to "Party 7". |
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No. The rule permits joinder of multiple plaintiffs and defendants in the same suit. Look back at Rule 20 ("Rule 20") if you wish. Do you see how it works? |
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We now have a lawsuit that looks like this:
P and A v. D1 and D2
But we aren't through yet. What if P also has a claim against D1 for an unpaid loan P made to D1. Does Rule 20 permit that claim to be joined in the existing lawsuit?
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As you can see from the last question, often you must look at more than one rule to determine the answer to a joinder problem. In this case, Rule 20 permits the initial joinder of the parties (P, A, D1 and D2) in one lawsuit because all were involved in the accident claim. Then, once the parties were properly joined, Rule 18 permits one party (here, P) to assert any other claims, related or unrelated, that P has against any opposing party. The key is that, at least as far as the rules are concerned, once Rule 20 is satisfied, another rule like Rule 18 ("Rule 18") can operate to permit other kinds of joinder of claims as to parties in the lawsuit. (Naturally, these rules do not eliminate the need for subject matter jurisdiction.)
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Now you have a basic grounding in party joinder, at least as far as starting the lawsuit is concerned. In other sections we will discuss how you can join more parties to the lawsuit. Go to the Index and choose another topic.
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COUNTERCLAIMS
As the name implies, counterclaims are claims brought as a reaction to other claims. To take the simplest example, if A sues B, and if B has a claim against A, B might assert it as a counterclaim in the A v. B lawsuit. But before we go any further, there is something you must understand. Counterclaims are not the same thing as a DENIAL OF LIABILITY ("Denial of Liability") , nor are they the same as DEFENSES ("Defenses") . A counterclaim is a request for affirmative relief against an opposing party.
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There are two general classes of counterclaims -- those that you must bring into the lawsuit and those that you may, but need not, bring into the lawsuit. The former are called compulsory counterclaims; the latter are called permissive counterclaims. Normally it is not difficult to determine whether your client has a claim for affirmative relief against an opposing party. But it is critical to understand whether the counterclaim is compulsory or not. You may believe for reasons of strategy that it would be preferable to assert the counterclaim as a separate lawsuit. Beware! If it turns out that the counterclaim was compulsory (i.e., it had to have been brought in the first suit), you will not be permitted to assert it later, and your client may become your adversary in court!
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How do you know whether a counterclaim is compulsory? As with other joinder questions, the first resort is to the Federal Rules. Specifically, RULE 13(a) ("Rule 13(a)") defines a compulsory counterclaim. Take a look at it before we go on.
There are three important elements of a compulsory counterclaim. Type the answer. Press the GRADE button when you are satisfied with your answers.
Three elements of compulsory counterclaims (one is not the lack of any need for other parties not subject to the courts' jurisdiction, so don't include that one!).
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The three elements are: 1) the counterclaim must be against an opposing party 2) the counterclaim must arise from the same transaction or occurrence as the claim against you 3) the counterclaim must exist at the time the opposing party's pleading is served on you.
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Compare the model answer to your answers. Hopefully you got all three right! |
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Before we delve into the details of those elements let's look at an example. P's car collides with the car of D. P is injured and brings a lawsuit against D to recover for the injuries. D was also injured and believes P was at fault in the accident. Is D's claim against P a compulsory counterclaim (ignore subject matter or personal jurisdiction issues)?
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Of course. P and D are opposing parties and whatever the elusive phrase "transaction or occurrence" means, these claims arise from the same one. We'll discuss that concept shortly. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 5". |
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Well, perhaps the terminology is still confusing to you. But P and D clearly are "opposing" parties, D's claim existed at the time P served the complaint and, whatever the elusive phrase "transaction or occurrence" means, D's claim arises from the same one as P's. We will explore these concepts as we go on. |
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Now it is time to explore the elements of compulsory counterclaims more closely. Keep in mind a central theme as we go through the elements of the various federal rules: If it makes good sense to allow the joinder of a particular claim or party, chances are that one or another of the rules will permit it. With that in mind, let's go on.
The central element of a compulsory counterclaim is that it must arise out of the "same transaction or occurrence" as the claim made against the counterclaiming party. We will start with a discussion of that element. If you wish to skip that discussion (because you already read it in another part of the program), you may click the link below. Otherwise continue on.
SKIP portions of this lesson on "same transaction or occurrence." ("Counterclaims 14")
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The meaning of "same transaction or occurrence" is both simple and vague. On the simple side, it means that before we encourage or mandate additional complexity in a lawsuit (through added claims or parties), we will require that there be some relatedness between the original, possibly simple claim and the added ones. This is particularly important when we are talking about adding claims that are not under the control of the plaintiff -- we don't want to unduly complicate matters for the plaintiff.
In fact, you may have already seen one instance of this principle at work if you went through the section on Joinder of Parties (available in Table of Contents) under RULE 20 ("Rule 20") . There, too, we found that the rules impose the same kind of relatedness test (also based on the terms "transaction or occurrence") for creating a lawsuit with multiple plaintiffs and/or defendants.
Author notes
3/320/2009 ACG took out direct link and replaced w/ reference to TOC
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Many cases are easy, such as the car accident example where the cars of P and D collide. Obviously, the accident is a single "occurrence" and claims arising from the accident are part of the same occurrence. Other cases are not so easy.
Courts have used several tests to determine whether two claims arise from the same "transaction or occurrence." One test is whether the evidence needed to prove the two claims is substantially the same. This would appear to be sufficient, and sensible, because if two claims will require the same evidence it makes sense to try them together. But, while this test can be helpful, it is also rather limiting. Other tests, which permit more latitude in joining claims, have been used.
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Another test is whether the two claims would be considered the same "cause of action" for purposes of res judicata or claim preclusion. That is, if the claims are so closely related that the common law would bar a later suit on one claim if not asserted along with the other they are from the same "transaction or occurrence." This, too, is a fairly restrictive test and is not widely used -- although if res judicata would bar the second claim, it probably satisfies the rule. Also, the term "cause of action" is even more elusive to define than "same transaction or occurrence" so the test often is not very helpful.
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The most popular test is the "logical relationship" or "logical connection" test. If the two claims are "logically related" then they are said to satisfy the "same transaction or occurrence" requirement. Unfortunately, this test is not terribly precise, so in difficult cases reasonable people may disagree on the correct answer. On the other hand, there is considerable agreement about the purpose of the logical relationship test, which allows for general agreement about a large number of cases.
It generally is agreed that the test follows the general scheme of the rules; if it makes sense to try the claims together, the rules probably permit them to be tried together. Thus, the logical relationship test is used pragmatically by courts. If it makes practical sense to combine the claims as a single trial unit, usually that is sufficient. In addition, courts perceive that the rules are to be read fairly liberally and will find the test to be met in many close cases.
The best way to get a feel for the test is to use it. Therefore, what follows are some fact situations in which you should determine whether the second claim (for convenience we are using counterclaims here as the second claim) is logically related to the main claim.
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Plaintiff sues Defendant to recover money allegedly loaned to Defendant (evidenced by personal checks written to Defendant). Defendant counterclaims alleging that the checks were payment for work performed and requesting an accounting of money paid to Defendant by Plaintiff. Are the claim and counterclaim part of one transaction or occurrence?
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West (which owns Westlaw, a computerized legal database) sues Lexis to prevent Lexis from using "star pagination" (internal page notations from the reporters) in its computerized legal database. West claims a federal copyright on the pagination in the West reporters. Lexis in turn claims that West has been attempting to monopolize the computerized legal database business by acquiring competitors, refusing to allow reasonably priced access to its publications by Lexis, monopolizing published reports of opinions and statutes (using exclusive contracts to publish them) and monopolizing its finding aids. Lexis countersues West for federal antitrust violations.
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01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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Company sues Insured to void an insurance policy issued by Company on the grounds of fraud by Insured. Insured counterclaims for recovery of a loss under the policy.
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Borrower sues Lender for violating the federal Truth in Lending Act ("TILA") by using illegal terms in the loan. Borrower seeks rescission of the loan. Lender counterclaims for money due by Borrower under the loan and not yet paid.
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The phrase "transaction or occurrence" is the key in determining whether or not a counterclaim is compulsory. But there are some exceptions to the rule, as we will see. For the next two questions, assume that A and B have a contract under which A is to deliver widgets to B every month for two years and B is to pay within a week of each delivery.
1. A sues B, claiming that B has not paid for last month's shipment. B wishes to counterclaim, alleging that the goods delivered were defective and that they damaged some of B's equipment. Is B's counterclaim compulsory?
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Another exception to the compulsory counterclaim rule is when there is another action pending on the counterclaim at the time the opposing party's pleading is served in the current action. In that case, you are not required to plead the pending claim as a counterclaim (you are permitted to do so if you wish, however).
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Well, the two claims do arise from the same general contract for monthly shipments. But you are overlooking a key part of Rule 13(a ("Rule 13(a)") ). The counterclaim must exist at the time the opposing party's pleading is served for it to be compulsory. Here, if the answer was filed within the time allotted by the rules, the counterclaim did not exist until later. |
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In addition, if the court cannot acquire jurisdiction over parties whose presence is needed for the counterclaim, or if the opposing claim is a quasi in rem action (i.e. one against attached property), then even related counterclaims are not compulsory. These are common sense exceptions to the compulsory counterclaim rule, but they are easily overlooked if one is too hasty.
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Clearly, compulsory counterclaims are the most critical of the two types analytically. But we shouldn't forget permissive counterclaims. Although not required, one is permitted to plead them even if they are unrelated to the opposing party's claim.
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Given the existence of permissive counterclaims (which encompass all counterclaims that are not compulsory) one may wonder why compulsory counterclaims are a big issue. If you can plead an unrelated counterclaim as a permissive one, a careful practitioner just pleads all available counterclaims to avoid any problems.
While that is a sensible strategy, things are not so simple. Although the rule permits free joinder of counterclaims, they still must satisfy the rules of SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION ("SMJ: Pop-Up") . As will be seen later, it is the limitations of subject matter jurisdiction that cause the distinction between compulsory and permissive counterclaims to be so critical. You can look at that section now, or wait until you have studied more of the joinder rules.
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What happens if you forget to interpose a compulsory counterclaim? If you try to bring a subsequent action on that claim it will be barred. But there is an escape hatch -- RULE 13(f) ("Rule 13(f)") . Take a look at it now. As you can see, the court has the authority to overlook a mistake on your part, but this is discretionary with the court and should not be counted on.
And suppose you have a counterclaim that does not exist until after the opposing party's pleading is served? You may use RULE 13(e) ("Rule 13(e)") to serve a supplemental pleading containing the counterclaim.
Now that you have the basics about counterclaims you can go on to another topic -- perhaps cross claims?
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CROSS CLAIMS
Cars driven by P, D1 and D2 are in an accident. P sues D1 and D2 (in federal court) for negligence, claiming they are jointly to blame for her injuries (see JOINDER OF PARTIES ("Joinder- Pop-Up") and/or RULE 20 ("Rule 20") ). If either D1 or D2 were injured and wanted to sue P for negligence in the same suit, that would be a COUNTERCLAIM. But suppose D1 wants to sue D2 in the existing suit. Why would that not be a counterclaim as well? (Hint: Take a look at RULE 13(a) ("Rule 13(a)") or RULE 13(b) ("Rule 13(b)") .) Use the space below for your answer. [Press Grade when ready]
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Right. Up to this point, D1 and D2 are not opposing parties. They are co-parties in a lawsuit. Rules 13(a) and 13(b) state that counterclaims are between opposing parties. After feedback jump to "Cross 2". |
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Right. Up to this point, D1 and D2 are not opposing parties. They are co-parties in a lawsuit. Rules 13(a) and 13(b) state that counterclaims are between opposing parties. After feedback jump to "Cross 2". |
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Right. Up to this point, D1 and D2 are not opposing parties. They are co-parties in a lawsuit. Rules 13(a) and 13(b) state that counterclaims are between opposing parties. After feedback jump to "Cross 2". |
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Right. Up to this point, D1 and D2 are not opposing parties. They are co-parties in a lawsuit. Rules 13(a) and 13(b) state that counterclaims are between opposing parties. After feedback jump to "Cross 2". |
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Not quite. The reason is that D1 and D2 are not opposing parties, which is a requirement of Rules 13(a) and (b). Rather, they are co-parties. |
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Claims can be made between co-parties, under specific circumstances. They are called cross-claims. (Note: In some states the term "cross complaint" includes COUNTERCLAIMS, cross-claims and THIRD PARTY CLAIMS. This is not the case in federal court.) To see how cross claims work, you may want to refer to this diagram of the hypothetical lawsuit:
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Cross claims are governed by RULE 13(g) ("Rule 13(g)") . Take a look at it before we go on.
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The rule contains a key phrase defining a proper cross claim. The cross claim must arise from the same "transaction or occurrence" as that underlying the main claim -- i.e., the one between P and D1 & D2 -- or a counterclaim in that original action.
Just what constitutes a transaction or occurrence is a matter worthy of some discussion. If you have not already worked through that part of the counterclaim section, follow this link to do so (Note: this link will take you back several questions in the lesson): "TRANSACTION OR OCCURRENCE ("Counterclaims 6 (trans/occ definition)") ." If you have been through that part, continue on from here.
Does the claim of D1 vs. D2 in the previous example satisfy that test?
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Right. The cross-claim arises from the same accident as the one that led to P's claim against D1 and D2. After feedback jump to "Cross 5". |
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Why would Rule 13(g) impose this relatedness test on cross-claims? Cross-claims, even more than counterclaims, are somewhat removed from the main action. In fact, they are known as "ancillary" claims. If we allowed any and all possible claims between co-parties, the lawsuit would become very complex and the ancillary claims would assume more importance than the original claim. This would be rather unfair to the plaintiff. Therefore, the rule requires that cross-claims be related to the original claim.
This also is consistent with the philosophy of the joinder rules: if it makes sense to allow the joinder, it should be permitted. It makes sense to join related claims into a single lawsuit; it cuts down on discovery and trial time in the long run. But adding unrelated claims often adds unneeded complexity without yielding any gains in efficiency.
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Suppose in the P v. D1 and D2 lawsuit the only claim D1 wants to assert against D2 is for a breach of contract for the sale of D2's house to D1. Is that a proper cross-claim?
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Would the answer be the same if D1 had a claim against D2 for injuries suffered in the accident and wanted to join the breach of contract claim with it as cross-claims in the P v. D1 and D2 suit?
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As can be seen from the last examples, a claim against a co-party that is unrelated to the main claim cannot be brought alone. However, under RULE 18 ("Rule 18") , if it is joined with a proper cross-claim then it can be joined. This adds a good deal of complexity. Fortunately, there is RULE 42(b) ("Rule 42(b)") to give the court flexibility to sever claims as necessary.
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In the P v. D1 and D2 suit arising from the accident, is D1 required to bring the claim against D2 arising from the accident in the same action?
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Right. The key language in Rule 13(g) is "may state as a crossclaim." This means that cross-claims are permissive, even though they are related to the main claim. This is a different situation from counterclaims ("Counterclaims: Pop-Up") . After feedback jump to "Cross 9". |
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There is one situation in which a cross-claim might be deemed compulsory. P sues D1 and D2 as before, and D1 cross-claims against D2 for injuries suffered in the accident. Now suppose D2 wants to assert a claim against D1 for injuries suffered in the same accident. That could be deemed a compulsory claim. Do you see why? Answer briefly in the space below. (Hint: see RULE 13(a) ("Rule 13(a)") and RULE 18 ("Rule 18") .)
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Excellent. D2 now is an opposing party to D1 (this is made reasonably clear by the language of Rule 18). D2's claim also arises from the same transaction or occurrence as D1's claim against D2. Therefore, under Rule 13(a), D2's claim looks like a compulsory counterclaim. After feedback jump to "Cross 10". |
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Excellent. D2 now is an opposing party to D1 (this is made reasonably clear by the language of Rule 18). D2's claim also arises from the same transaction or occurrence as D1's claim against D2. Therefore, under Rule 13(a), D2's claim looks like a compulsory counterclaim. After feedback jump to "Cross 10". |
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D2 now is an opposing party to D1 (this is made reasonably clear by the language of Rule 18). D2's claim also arises from the same transaction or occurrence as D1's claim against D2. Therefore, under Rule 13(a), D2's claim looks like a compulsory counterclaim. |
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We have learned a lot about cross-claims in this discussion. However, there is one subject that is being left for later. Lurking in the background of all joinder problems is SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION ("SMJ: Pop-Up") . Cross-claims must satisfy subject matter jurisdiction, even if they are permitted under the rules. This is a particular problem when one uses Rule 18 to join unrelated claims with a proper cross-claim. If you want to see that discussion now, use the button to go there. Otherwise, it's time to go back to the Index and choose another topic.
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THIRD PARTY CLAIMS
Third-party claims can best be explained by an example. Imagine that you own a store. You buy products to sell from Manufacturer. Unfortunately, one of those products, purchased by a consumer, breaks and injures the consumer. The consumer sues you for breach of warranty. But you had no way of knowing that the product was defective (it was packaged). Although you may be liable to Consumer as the seller of the goods, you believe that Manufacturer is the real culprit and should have to indemnify you for any loss. (In tort terms, you are secondarily liable and Manufacturer is primarily liable.)
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Third-party claims provide a procedure for resolving both claims in one lawsuit. When Consumer sues you, you may bring a claim against Manufacturer (who is not yet a party to the action), all in the same action. The claim by you against Manufacturer is a third-party claim; the procedure used to join Manufacturer is called an impleader. You are the third-party plaintiff and the Manufacturer is the third-party defendant. Here is a diagram of the resulting lawsuit:
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Take a look at RULE 14 ("Rule 14") to see the circumstances under which third-party claims may be brought. Now consider the following question:
A is driving a car and B is a passenger in the car. The car collides with a car driven by C. B sues C for negligence. C denies liability and claims that the accident was entirely A's fault. C wants to assert a third-party claim against A. Is that proper?
After you choose an answer, you will be asked to indicate what part of the rule supports your answer. To change your answer to this question, press "OOPS!". Now, answer the question --
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The previous example illustrates the key limitation in Rule 14 -- the third party complaint must allege that the third party defendant is liable to the third-party plaintiff, not to the plaintiff in the main action.
Assuming that one has a proper impleader claim, is one required to bring it into the lawsuit?
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The rest of Rule 14 ("Rule 14") deals with claims related to the joinder of the third-party defendant. You should look carefully at the rule before you proceed, but it will be available at all times at the press of the Rules button.
The next page will series of questions will present you with a series of possible claims in the third-party context. The original lawsuit (A v. B) is a car accident between A and B. B has properly impleaded C, claiming that C (driver of another car) is partly to blame and is liable to B. You will be presented with a diagram of each additional claim and a description of the claim. You are to determine whether the claim is compulsory, permissive or improper under the federal rules. For the moment ignore subject matter jurisdiction issues. The program assumes that the claims are asserted in the order presented, and it assumes that they are asserted after the original impleader is accomplished. (You may assume that any necessary motions to add these claims are made in a timely fashion.)
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Description of Claim: Contract claim for goods sold and delivered
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Description of Claim: Tort claim for assault and battery unrelated to the accident
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Description of Claim: Claim for injuries suffered in the accident due to C's alleged negligence
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Description of Claim: Contract claim on an unpaid promissory note
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Description of Claim: Claim for injuries suffered by C in the accident
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Description of Claim: Claim for assault and battery against A as a result of a fight two days after the accident
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Well, you have finished all of the claims in the diagram. Don't forget, these explanations are only for what the rules permit or require; the requirements of subject matter jurisdiction may further limit your options!
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MORE ON THIRD PARTY CLAIMS
Now that you have the basics there are just a few final points to make.
Let's use our three car accident example again. For this question, assume that the only claims are the main claim of A v. B and the third-party claim of B v. C (i.e., no claims between C and A). Responding to the third-party complaint, C asserts an affirmative defense that the plaintiff, A, was contributorily negligent (B has not yet asserted that defense). A claims that, because A has not sued C, C cannot raise an affirmative defense to A's claim against B. Is A right?
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However, there are certain limits. The third-party defendant cannot raise defenses deemed personal to the main defendant, such as personal jurisdiction or notice. |
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Suppose C believes that D, a passenger in C's car, was partly to blame for any errant driving on C's part. Can C bring D into the suit?
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Look carefully at Rule 14(a)(5). It specifically permits a third-party defendant to implead a non-party to the suit. That non-party becomes a "fourth party" defendant. |
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I think that gives you a good grounding in third-party claims. One important caveat to all of this is that, even if Rule 14 (alone or in combination with other rules) permits a claim to be asserted, there still must be subject matter jurisdiction ("SMJ: Pop-Up") over the claim and personal jurisdiction ("Personal Jurisdiction") over any new parties brought into the action, such as the third-party defendant.
Finally, Rule 14 contains some provisions for the timing of third-party claims. If they are asserted within 10 days of the service of the main claim then no motion to the court is required. If asserted later a motion must be made.
Now you can go on!
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COMPULSORY JOINDER
The concept of compulsory joinder is somewhat antithetical to our usual model of litigation. Normally, plaintiff is entitled to choose his or her opponents. (There are some exceptions, notably intervention ("Intervention: Pop-Up") and third-party actions ("third - in general") . The latter do not involve parties directly opposed to the plaintiff.) Compulsory joinder is an attempt to protect two groups of people. First is the absent party. As we will see, under some circumstances it would be unfair to continue the action without the absent person. Second, we want to protect existing parties from unfair burdens caused by the absence of a vital person. At the same time, we want to preserve plaintiff's choice of defendants whenever possible. Under limited circumstances we will mandate the joinder of absent individuals, or dismiss the action if they cannot be joined.
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Before Rule 19 ("Rule 19") was amended in 1966, the rule operated pretty much under common law notions of compulsory joinder. The common law divided absent people into two categories -- "necessary" and "indispensable ". (Naturally, a third category existed of people who need not be joined in any event, but we will ignore them for the moment.) Necessary parties were those who should be part of the action, but are not so essential that the action cannot continue without them. Thus, the name "necessary" is somewhat of a misnomer. Indispensable parties were those who must be made parties. Without them, the action could not continue. The operation of these principles can be illustrated by a well-known case.
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A moderately wealthy woman named Sara dies having executed a will leaving a number of specific bequests to various individuals and charities, and leaving the remainder of the estate -- most of it, in fact -- to a Hospital. Sara's niece, Bertha, filed a suit claiming that Sara had agreed to leave the entire estate to her. Although there were many legatees, Bertha only formally joined two defendants, the Hospital and a Bank, which was the executor of Sara's estate. [WHY ("WHY") ?] The suit sought an order adjudging Bertha the sole beneficiary of the estate and ordering the defendants to transfer the property of the estate to Bertha.
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Apart from the mere fact that the Bank and Hospital might lose, does the absence of the other legatees cause them any special problems? Check the answer(s) you think are correct and then press grade.
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Incorrect. If the Bank is ordered to pay Bertha, the absent parties could sue the Bank and win. |
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Could the absent beneficiaries be harmed by the result in this case?
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As a result of this, the court found the absent beneficiaries to be "necessary," which really means desirable. But many were beyond the jurisdiction of the court. Thus, the question became whether they were "indispensable," requiring that the action be dismissed.
The court found that it was possible to make an order ("Order") protecting the rights of both the parties to the action and of the absent legatees. Therefore, it concluded that the absent legatees were not indispensable.
Unfortunately, the distinctions between "necessary" and "indispensable" parties were often shrouded in artificial distinctions, making accurate counseling difficult. Finally, in 1966, the drafters of the federal rules tried a more pragmatic approach to the problem.
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One final note before moving to Rule 19's solution to the problem. Generally, defendants do not request compulsory joinder unless the absent parties cannot be joined. (This is not always true, but other procedural avenues exist for defendants to join parties when necessary. For instance, interpleader under a federal statute ("Section 1335") or Rule 22 ("Rule 22") can often avoid the problem of double liability.) Thus, it is used most often in an attempt to have the action dismissed.
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The Change to Amended Rule 19
Rule 19 was amended in 1966. The aim was to get away from the artificial categories of "necessary" and "indispensable" parties and move to a more pragmatic analysis of compulsory joinder. The rule divides the analysis into three segments. First, one determines whether, under Rule 19(a), the absent person is one who SHOULD be joined. If yes, then determine whether that person CAN be joined. If not, then go to Rule 19(b) to determine whether the action should be dismissed.
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Rule 19 (a) - Who Should be Joined?
Landlord (from New York) believes that Subtenant (from California) is violating the terms of a $100,000 lease between Landlord and Tenant (from Canada). Landlord wants to sue both Tenant and Subtenant in the same action to terminate the lease. Does Rule 19(a) ("Rule 19") apply?
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But if party joinder is not used voluntarily, then we must consider Rule 19. Here is another example:
After a plane crash, Victim's family sues Maker for negligent design and manufacture of the airplane. Maker claims that Pilot should be joined as a defendant. Under our Rule 19 analysis we first must determine whether Pilot is a person who should be joined if feasible.
Let us do this in a structured way.
Can complete relief be granted between Victim and Maker in the absence of Pilot?
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Does Pilot have an interest in the suit such that, as a practical matter, Pilot's interest will be impaired if Pilot is not made a party? (This is Rule 19(a)(1)(B)(i) ("Rule 19") . Compare Rule 24(a)(2) ("Rule 24") .)
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Is there a substantial risk that Victim or Maker will be subject to multiple liability or inconsistent obligations
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Thus, we can conclude that Pilot is not a person who should be joined if feasible under Rule 19(a). Even if Rule 19(a) was deemed satisfied and Pilot could not be joined, it is very doubtful that Rule 19(b) would require dismissal. For one thing, as noted in an answer above, Maker may be able to avoid the problem by using a third-party claim ("third - in general") . The problem is between Maker and Pilot, and has nothing to do with Victim. It would be unfair to deprive Victim of a chosen forum on this basis.
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Assuming one finds that an absent person satisfies Rule 19(a) and should be joined, what could make joinder not feasible? (Check all that apply)
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| A | You should reread the first sentence of Rule 19(a). It specifically mentions subject matter jurisdiction as a problem. |
Rule 19(a) specifically talks about someone who does not destroy subject matter jurisdiction. So that answer is correct. |
| B | You missed the beginning of Rule 19 where it says the absent person must be subject to personal jurisdiction to be compelled to join. |
Rule 19(a) states that an absent person must be subject to service of process to be compelled to join. Your answer is correct. |
| C | Apparently you understand that if a person is subject to service of process, notice should not be a problem. |
Notice is not the same as being "subject to" service of process. If the person can be served, presumably proper notice can be given. |
| D | Venue is only a problem if the joined party raises the issue. Thus it differs from subject matter and personal jurisdiction. However, if it is raised by the joined party and venue is improper, that party will be dismissed. |
Venue is only a problem if the joined party raises it. If not, then the joinder proceeds. If it is raised, then the party would be dismissed if venue is improper. (See the last sentence of Rule 19(a).) |
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Here's another example. Harry (an Ohio citizen) sued a Bank (a Florida citizen) requesting that the Bank be ordered to issue shares of its stock to Harry. Harry claimed that he and Sally (an Ohio citizen) jointly purchased Bank stock, which was issued in Sally's name, but that Sally had told the Bank to issue some of the shares in Harry's name. The Bank claimed that Sally had agreed to transfer the shares to the Bank for use as collateral on a loan made to Sally. (Got that?) The Bank now claims that Sally must be joined.
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Harry (an Ohio citizen) sued a Bank (a Florida citizen) requesting that the Bank be ordered to issue shares of its stock to Harry. Harry claimed that he and Sally (an Ohio citizen) jointly purchased Bank stock, which was issued in Sally's name, but that Sally had told the Bank to issue some of the shares in Harry's name. The Bank claimed that Sally had agreed to transfer the shares to the Bank for use as collateral on a loan made to Sally. (Got that?) The Bank now claims that Sally must be joined.
Which parts of Rule 19(a) are relevant here? (There may be more than one correct answer.)
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| A | Complete relief cannot be granted to Harry or the Bank without Sally |
| B | Sally has an interest which will, as a practical matter, be impaired by her absence |
| C | The Bank has a substantial risk of double liability or inconsistent obligations |
| D | None of the provisions of Rule 19(a) are satisfied |
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Thus, Sally is a person who should be joined if feasible. Assuming the suit was brought in an Ohio federal court, can Sally be joined?
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| A | Yes. |
| B | No, because personal jurisdiction is lacking |
| C | No, because subject matter jurisdiction would be improper |
| D | No, because venue would be improper |
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Sorry. Since Harry and Sally are both Ohio citizens, her joinder would destroy subject matter jurisdiction. |
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That shouldn't be a problem. The case is in Ohio and Sally is an Ohio citizen. Try again. |
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Correct. Since Harry and Sally are both Ohio citizens, her joinder would destroy subject matter jurisdiction. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 18". |
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Venue is only a problem if Sally raises the issue. But that isn't the real problem here. Try again. |
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Once the court determines that an absent person should be joined, and that the person cannot be joined, it must determine whether "in equity and good conscience the action should proceed" with the existing parties or be dismissed. This is not a simple question, and answers will vary widely depending on the facts of each case. Rule 19 (b) sets out four basic factors. Two of them tend to be of the greatest import in most cases: the availability of another forum for plaintiff's complaint and the ability of the court to fashion relief that both avoids harming the absent party and protects the parties in the case.
If you wish to see the Supreme Court's discussion of the Rule 19(b) factors click the "CASE ("CASE") " hyperlink.
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If you went through the earlier part where the case of Bertha against the Bank was discussed, you saw that a court has considerable discretion to fashion relief in a way that permits the action to continue.
Let's return to another example -- Harry and Sally and the Bank. FACTS ("Compulsory Facts 2") We decided that Sally was a person who should be joined under Rule 19(a) but who cannot be joined due to subject matter jurisdiction problems. Therefore, we must ask whether the action should be dismissed.
Is there another forum for an action by Harry against the Bank and Sally?
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The availability of another forum favors dismissal. But if the court can shape relief to avoid either harming Sally's interest or causing double liability to the Bank then plaintiff's autonomy should be respected. Write a possible way for the court to fashion such relief below (or write NONE if you think it is not possible).
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That certainly is a possibility. You should consider that the court might order the Bank to issue the shares to Harry but order that Harry hold them until his dispute with Sally is settled. That might alleviate the problem somewhat -- at least as between Harry and the Bank. Of course it would not settle the entire dispute. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 22". |
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In the actual case on which this example is based the court decided that Sally (not her real name) was indispensable. Here is part of what the court said:
"The second factor [of Rule 19(b)] directs the court to consider the extent to which the shaping of relief might avoid or lessen the prejudice to existing or absent parties. Because the title to the stock certificates, although not the immediate issue in this litigation, assumes such commanding importance, it is difficult to conceptualize a form of relief or protective provisions which would not require as a preliminary matter the determination of the question of title with all the resulting potential for prejudice." [footnote omitted]
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As you can see, determining when a party is "indispensable" is not an easy matter. However, you should understand that very few situations call for the dismissal of the action under Rule 19. Therefore, do not be too quick to assume that an absent person's presence is required by the rule.
Time to go on!
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Sometimes someone who is not a party to the action wants to get in on the fun. However, allowing just anyone to crash the party would be unfair to those already in the suit - particularly the plaintiff, who chose not to bring this person into the suit. Rule 24 ("Rule 24") sets forth the conditions under which an outsider may join the lawsuit. In some circumstances the nonparty has a right to intervene; in other circumstances intervention is dependent on the indulgence of the court.
First, let's consider the situation under Rule 24(a), in which a nonparty has an unconditional right to intervene in the action. We can see the underlying logic of the rule in the context of a hypothetical case (on the next page).
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Imagine that A sues B claiming a violation of the federal securities laws. C has a claim against B stemming from an automobile accident. C figures that since B already is a defendant in (let us assume) an unsavory case, it would be advantageous to join the lawsuit and assert the claim against B. Ignoring subject matter jurisdiction concerns, should C have a right to intervene in this lawsuit?

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Permitting intervention here would cause problems. It would disrupt A's lawsuit without yielding any gains in judicial economy - even the discovery would have to be separate. (Rule 18 claim joinder at least potentially avoids motion practice among existing parties over whether claims are related.)
Looking at Rule 24(a) we see that the outsider's rights must somehow be affected by the existing lawsuit for the nonparty to have a right to intervene: the moving party (the putative intervenor) must be "so situated that disposing of the action may as a practical matter impair or impede the movant's ability to protect its interest" That is not the case with C here. C's claim has nothing to do with A's and could not be affected by it. Therefore, C does not have a right to intervene.
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Before we go on, let's make sure that you know the three requirements of Rule 24 (a). Write them in the space below.
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1) You must claim an interest in the property that is the subject of the action or the transaction on which the action is based.
2) The pending action must, as a practical matter, harm your ability to protect that interest.
3) The existing parties must not be able adequately to protect your interests
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In the first example that we looked at the proposed intervenor, C, did not claim any interest in the basic subject matter of the lawsuit -- the securities transactions. Thus, C did not satisfy the first requirement of rule 24(a)(2).
Suppose Landlord (L) sues Tenant (T) claiming a breach of the lease. If L is successful, the lease will be ended. However, T has subleased to Subtenant (S), who is not a party to the action. S, fearing eviction, seeks to intervene as of right as a defendant in the suit (ignore any jurisdictional issues).
Does S claim an interest in the transaction that forms the basis of the lawsuit?
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Correct. Even though S has no contract with L, S's sublease with T would be harmed if the main lease is breached. After feedback jump to "Intervention 6". |
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That's a hard answer to understand. Although S does not have a contract directly with L, S's sublease surely will be affected if the main lease is terminated. |
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I don't see why you are being so equivocal. Although S has no contract with L, if the main lease is terminated it surely will affect S. |
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As a practical matter, will S be unable to protect this interest (say, in a separate lawsuit) if S cannot intervene?
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Right. If T loses, then S has little recourse other than a suit against T. But that would only get damages, not the right to live in the subleased premises. After feedback jump to "Intervention 7". |
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Would T adequately represent S's interests?
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A hard question. T might not care about the suit because S, not T, is living in the premises. If S is paying a large premium to sublease arguably T's interest in keeping the sublease alive would be sufficient to protect S's interests. But most likely a court would permit S to intervene as of right here. As an interesting side note consider this: S almost certainly would be a compulsory party under Rule 19. You may have noticed that Rule 19(a)(1)(B)(i) is almost identical to part of Rule 24(a)(2). At a minimum, S would be a party who should be joined under Rule 19(a) -- that section has no limitation regarding adequate representation by existing parties. |
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In practice, the "interest" requirement and the requirement that the intervenor's interest be, as a practical matter, impaired by failure to intervene are treated together in many cases. It is easy to see why. Unless the interest clearly is unrelated to the pending action, it makes sense to inquire into how the intervenor will be harmed before deciding whether the interest is appropriate and sufficient. Sometimes, an interest that does not appear related on its face may prove to be related when one inquires as to potential harm.
Thus far, we have considered fairly easy cases. Let's consider a harder case.
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The United States (US) filed suit against various parties (VP), claiming ownership of certain coastal reefs and claiming that VP had dredged and deposited material on the reefs in violation of federal law (the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act).
Atlantis (A), a non-party corporation, claims to have discovered these particular reefs, claims ownership of these reefs and wants to develop them as resorts. A seeks to intervene, claiming its ownership and alleging that VP and US have trespassed on its land.

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| A | A has no interest in the subject matter of the action |
| B | A's interest will not, as a practical matter, be harmed by a failure to intervene |
| C | The existing parties will adequately protect A's interests |
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If you already have seen the discussion of adequate representation as an issue you may SKIP ("Intervention 12") this section of the tutorial. Otherwise, continue with this screen.
The US is trying to defeat the claims of VP, who are competing claimants to A. Why doesn't that make US an adequate representative of A's interests?
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| A | US represents all citizens, not just A |
| B | If US loses then a precedent is set |
| C | The US claim is adverse to A's claim |
| D | The US has no claim against A |
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Only in the philosophical sense. In reality, the US interest here is adverse to A because A and US have conflicting claims of ownership of the reef. Thus, US cannot adequately represent A. |
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That really only explains (in part) how A is harmed by the outcome of the case. It does not really explain why the US can't adequately represent A. After all, if US fights hard but loses, why assume that A would be a better litigant? Try another answer. |
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Correct. Both A and US claim ownership of the reef and their claims are not compatible. After feedback jump to "Intervention 11". |
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But if US's claim against VP is the same as A's claim, wouldn't US adequately represent A's interests? Try again. |
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Even if the US is an inadequate representative, why aren't the other parties (VP) adequate representatives?
Is it because they cannot bind A if they win?
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Is it because their claims are adverse to A and A wants to sue them?
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Permissive Intervention
There is another form of intervention under Rule 24: permissive intervention. As its name implies, this form of intervention depends on the largesse of the court, which means that the court has considerable discretion to control such intervention.
Some provisions of the Civil Rights laws give the U.S. Attorney General a conditional ability to intervene. However, permissive intervention is largely under the province of Rule 24(b)(2). Let us see how the rule operates in practice.
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Victim sues Lowlife for selling worthless unregistered securities of XYZ Co. allegedly in violation of the federal securities laws. Lowlife denies that registration was required. Another person, Buyer, had purchased other securities from Lowlife - those of ABC, Inc. - in an unrelated deal and now believes those securities (which are the same type as those issued by XYZ) should have been registered.
Is Buyer prohibited from intervening by Rule 24(b)?
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As you can see, permissive intervention is much more liberal than intervention as of right. However, a motion for permissive intervention is addressed to the sound discretion of the court. What sort of limits could a court place on a permissive intervenor? (Check all that you think apply, then press Grade.)
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Correct. The court may impose any or all of these restrictions. The court's power to impose limits on intervention as of right is somewhat more problematic. Nothing in the rule indicates that such a power exists, but the Advisory Committee notes indicate that the Committee believed such power existed. In the absence of express authority the Advisory Committee's opinion should not be definitive, although some courts have tried to impose restrictions on intervenors of right. After feedback jump to "Intervention 15". |
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Incorrect. Any or all of these restrictions may be imposed by the court on a permissive intervenor. The court's power to impose limits on intervention as of right is somewhat more problematic. Nothing in the rule indicates that such a power exists, but the Advisory Committee notes indicate that the Committee believed such power existed. In the absence of express authority the Advisory Committee's opinion should not be definitive, although some courts have tried to impose restrictions on intervenors of right. After feedback jump to "Intervention 15". |
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Apart from the types of conditions the court might impose, there is another crucial distinction between permissive and as of right intervenors. A denial of intervention as of right is immediately appealable, even before the suit is completed. To appeal denial of permissive intervention one must wait until there is a final judgment. (One caveat - if the court grants permissive intervention but denies intervention as of right, the denial portion is not immediately appealable.)
For both 24(a) and 24(b) intervention the rule requires a "timely" motion. (You must make a motion to intervene under either section.) Timeliness depends on the facts, but obviously a showing of prejudice to those already parties will be the strongest evidence of an untimely motion. Intervention poses interesting problems of subject matter jurisdiction (available in the index) as well. You can explore them now or go to any other topic you choose.
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SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND JOINDER
Although the federal rules make it very easy to join claims and parties to a lawsuit, this facility must be tempered by two considerations. First, there must be PERSONAL JURISDICTION ("Personal Jurisdiction") over all parties added to the lawsuit. Second, the court must have subject matter jurisdiction over all claims in the lawsuit. It is the latter problem with which we will be concerned in this section.
Subject matter jurisdiction refers to the ability of a court to hear a particular kind of case. You may already be familiar with the two major forms of federal subject matter jurisdiction: DIVERSITY ("Diversity") and FEDERAL QUESTION ("Federal Question Jurisdiction") . The key to using these concepts in the context of joinder is to remember one simple rule: There must be some kind of subject matter jurisdiction over each claim in the lawsuit. Thus, the main claim (say A v. B) will have either diversity or federal question jurisdiction, which permits the suit to be brought into a federal court. However, as we add claims and parties to this simple lawsuit keep in mind the rule; each added claim must have its own subject matter jurisdiction or it cannot be added.
The reason for this rule is found in federal Rule 82 . As you can see, Rule 82 states that the federal rules do not override the statutory requirements for subject matter jurisdiction. Therefore, even if a federal rule permits the addition of a particular claim, there must also be subject matter jurisdiction over that claim.
To make it easier to use this section, you may use the menu on the next page to select specific topics in subject matter jurisdiction. Pressing the "Subject Matter Menu" button at the right (which is on all pages in this section) will make the menu ("SMJ Menu") page pop up.
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GENERAL COMMENTS
In the simple case involving only A v. B federal subject matter jurisdiction is relatively easy. Things become complicated only when we start adding claims and parties.
For instance, to the simple A v. B, add a defendant:
A v. B and C
If there is no federal question, and A is a New York citizen, B is a California citizen and C is a California citizen, is there DIVERSITY (the case is for $1 million against each of B and C)?
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Now suppose A is not diverse from either B or C. Suppose further that A has a FEDERAL QUESTION ("Federal Question Jurisdiction") claim against B. If A has a claim under state law against C, and if the rules of PARTY JOINDER ("Party Joinder - In General") permit the joinder of this claim, is there subject matter jurisdiction over the entire lawsuit?
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Alternatively, suppose A has two claims against B, one of which is a federal question and one of which is a breach of contract claim for $100,000 under state law. Assuming that the rules of CLAIM JOINDER ("Claim - In General") would permit the joinder of these two claims, would there be subject matter jurisdiction over the resulting lawsuit?
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This is the best answer. You do not know whether the parties are diverse, and the federal question covers only one claim. There is another possible basis for jurisdiction which we haven't yet discussed, but you would need more facts to determine whether it exists. After feedback jump to "SMJ 5". |
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As we have noted earlier, the federal joinder rules permit the joinder of most claims that belong together in one lawsuit. There are jurisdictional rules that permit the court to have subject matter jurisdiction over many, but not all, of the claims that may be joined under the federal rules, even when federal question and diversity jurisdiction are lacking. In the next section, we'll begin to see how these rules work. (Or you may go back to the subject matter jurisdiction menu ("SMJ Menu") .)
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THE CONCEPT OF SUPPLEMENTAL JURISDICTION
It had long been obvious that there are times when it would be very convenient to permit joinder of claims and parties, but neither DIVERSITY ("Diversity") nor FEDERAL QUESTION ("Federal Question Jurisdiction") jurisdiction exists. In addition to the lack of any specific statutory basis for jurisdiction over the joined claims there was another stumbling block. Article 3 of the Constitution limits the federal courts to hearing "cases or controversies" of certain types, the most common of which are diversity cases and federal question cases (there are others, but they aren't helpful to this discussion). If there was no Article 3 category into which the joined claims would fit, arguably the Constitution prohibited the joinder of those claims in federal court.
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In the case of United Mine Workers v. Gibbs ("United Mine Workers v. Gibbs") , the Supreme Court held that, if a claim arose from the same "nucleus of operative facts" as a federal question claim, the non-federal claim could be considered part of the same constitutional "case" as the federal question claim and the federal courts could assert subject matter jurisdiction over the non-federal claim. This judge-made doctrine of subject matter jurisdiction (the facts of Gibbs involve what used to be called PENDENT jurisdiction) outside the normal confines of diversity and federal question jurisdiction allowed an important expansion of CLAIM JOINDER ("Claim - In General") . Analogous judge-made doctrines permitted a variety of other types of claim and party joinder, as we will discuss.
In 1990, Congress codified these judge-made doctrines in a statute, 28 U.S.C. sec. 1367 ("Section 1367") . This form of jurisdiction (formerly known as pendent and ancillary jurisdiction ("Ancillary Jurisdiction") ) is now known as Supplemental Jurisdiction. Section 1367 ("Section 1367") now provides the basis for jurisdiction in a variety of situations when the DIVERSITY ("Diversity") and FEDERAL QUESTION ("Federal Question Jurisdiction") statutes would not apply. This permits the expansive federal joinder rules to be used in a more effective manner, to bring most of the claims that should be joined together into the same lawsuit.
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Discussion of sec. 1367:
There are two key aspects of the supplemental jurisdiction statute. First is the requirement that the supplemental claims be sufficiently related to the main claim such that one Article 3 "case" exists (thus codifying the test of United Mine Workers v. Gibbs).
Second, the statute singles out a general category of cases for somewhat less favorable treatment, as far as permitting supplemental jurisdiction. What category is that?
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| A | Federal Question cases |
| B | Diversity cases |
| C | Supplemental jurisdiction cases |
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| A |
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No, try again. |
| B |
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Right. Cases where the sole jurisdictional basis for the main claim is diversity are treated less favorably. After feedback jump to "SMJ 9". |
| C |
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No. That's what all of section 1367 is about! |
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Finally, suppose in A v. B, A is from New York and B is from Texas. A has a federal antitrust claim against B relating to some business dealings between the parties and also a tort claim against B for $100,000 stemming from an automobile accident.
Can the two claims be joined under the federal rules? (This is a review!)
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Correct. Rule 18 ("Rule 18") permits the joinder of these claims. After feedback jump to "SMJ 10". |
| No |
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Hmmm. That's not correct -- you can join these claims (even if unrelated). Perhaps you should review claim joinder and/or Rule 18. |
| Maybe |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 9M". |
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Same facts ("SMJ 9 Facts") as previous question.
Is there a subject matter jurisdiction problem with either or both claims?
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Yes, No or MaybeResponse
| Yes |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 10Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 10N". |
| Maybe |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 10M". |
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The point is that there is no need to use supplemental jurisdiction when there is an independent basis for jurisdiction over a claim. Just because there is more than one claim does not mean that it does not have an independent basis for jurisdiction.
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SUPPLEMENTAL CLAIM JURISDICTION (formerly known as "PENDENT" JURISDICTION)
Suppose A and B are not diverse, but A has a federal question claim against B for violation of the federal securities laws. The rules of CLAIM JOINDER ("Claim - In General") would permit A to add other claims against B. However, unless those other claims arise under ("Arising Under") a federal law there would be no apparent basis for subject matter jurisdiction over those other claims. Now suppose the second claim of A against B is for fraud under state law and that the basis for the fraud claim is the same activity that forms the basis for the federal securities claim. This is a classic illustration of a "supplemental " claim --a form of jurisdiction outside of the confines of DIVERSITY ("Diversity") and FEDERAL QUESTION ("Federal Question Jurisdiction") jurisdiction. (Such supplemental claims made by plaintiffs against defendants, and added on to claims that have an independent basis for federal subject matter jurisdiction -- such as federal question jurisdiction -- used to be known as "pendent" claims.) Although such jurisdiction was originally judge made, is has now been codified as 28 U.S.C. sec. 1367. ("Section 1367")
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Under the landmark case of United Mine Workers v. Gibbs ("United Mine Workers v. Gibbs") the two claims are considered part of one "case" under Article III of the Constitution because they arise from a "common nucleus of operative facts." Thus, the additional (nonfederal) claim satisfies the jurisdictional standard under section 1367(a) ("Section 1367") .
SUPPLEMENTAL (formerly PENDENT ) PARTIES
Suppose that A has a claim against the United States under a federal statute, known as the Federal Tort Claims Act, relating to an airplane crash. Suppose further that there is another potential defendant, D, who was also allegedly partially responsible for the crash. The rules of PARTY JOINDER ("Party Joinder - In General") would permit A to join the U.S. and D in the same action. The action would look like the image shown:
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However, the Tort Claims Act applies only to claims against the United States; therefore, unless the claim of A v. D has an independent basis of jurisdiction, it cannot be brought into federal court. If A and D are not diverse, there is no apparent basis for jurisdiction. On the other hand, it would seem wasteful to force A to bring two lawsuits (the claim against the U.S. can only be brought in federal court).
In many ways, the claim of A v. D looks like the supplemental claims that we just discussed -- it is a nonfederal question claim but one that is related to a federal question claim. However, it involves the addition of another party to the action, as well as another claim. Therefore, in a series of cases, the Supreme Court held that such "pendent parties" could not be added, despite the inefficiencies that resulted.
Now take a look at section 1367 ("Section 1367") . Does it permit the addition of parties under the circumstances described above (i.e., the claims of A vs. U.S. and D -- assuming A and D are not diverse)?
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Jump straight to "SMJ 13Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 13N". |
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Now let's change things a little. Assume that A has claims against B and C, neither of which is a federal question claim (for example, from a single car accident). A and B are diverse, but A and C are not, and all claims exceed $75,000.
The A v. B claim would have federal subject matter jurisdiction standing alone (diversity ("Diversity") ). Can A join the claim against C in federal court in the same action, using section 1367?
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Jump straight to "SMJ 14Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 14N". |
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Let's change the facts just a little more. Assume now that there are two plaintiffs, A and B ( both from New York), suing one defendant, D (from California). A and B each have claims arising from the same auto accident; A and B were in the same car. A was seriously injured and claims damages of $250,000. B was only slightly injured and claims damages of $15,000. Can A and B jointly sue D in federal court in California?

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Jump straight to "SMJ 15-Y". |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 15-N". |
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But perhaps there is supplemental jurisdiction available? (I.e., perhaps B could tag along on A's legitimate diversity claim?)

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Jump straight to "SMJ 16Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 16N". |
Author notes
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COUNTERCLAIMS
As you should know by now, counterclaims come in two varieties: permissive and compulsory. The availability of subject matter jurisdiction will differ depending on the type of counterclaim.
Let us first consider compulsory counterclaims. If A and B are diverse, and both the main claim and the (compulsory) counterclaim are for more than $75,000, is there a subject matter jurisdiction issue?
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I don't see why. There would be diversity for each claim. (Similarly, if the counterclaim arises under ("Arising Under") federal law there is no problem.) |
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Correct. (Similarly, if the counterclaim arises under ("Arising Under") federal law there is no problem.) After feedback jump to "SMJ 18". |
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If A and B are not diverse, and the counterclaim does not arise under federal law, where might we look for jurisdiction?
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| A | Diversity 2. Federal Question 3. Rule 13 4. Rule 82 5. Supplemental Jurisdiction |
| B | Federal Question |
| C | Rule 13 ("Rule 13(a)") |
| D | Rule 82 ("Rule 82") |
| E | Supplemental Jurisdiction |
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No. By hypothesis A and B are not diverse. |
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Hey, wake up! It says the counterclaim does not arise under federal law, so it cannot be a federal question. |
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Well, not really. Even if Rule 13 permits the claim to be joined, that isn't sufficient. The rules cannot confer jurisdiction. |
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No. In fact, Rule 82 states that the Rules cannot create jurisdiction. |
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Right. Now we'll see how it works. After feedback jump to "SMJ 19". |
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Go back and look at Rule 13(a) ("Rule 13(a)") and then type in the key language that may permit the use of supplemental jurisdiction under section 1367.
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " transaction"" occurrence" |
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That is correct. The key language is that the compulsory counterclaim arises from the "transaction or occurrence" that is the subject of the main claim. After feedback jump to "SMJ 20". |
| does not contain any of these word(s) " transaction"" occurrence" |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 19-W". |
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I don't recognize your answer. Try again |
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Do you see what part of section 1367 this relates to?
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Jump straight to "SMJ 20Y". |
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Look carefully. In section 1367(a) ("Section 1367") it says that the court can assert jurisdiction over claims that are so related to claims that are within the original jurisdiction of the court that they form part of the same "case or controversy" [as in United Mine Workers]. After feedback jump to "SMJ 21". |
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01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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As you can see, the very definition of a compulsory counterclaim contains the basis for supplemental jurisdiction -- it requires that the counterclaim be related to the main claim in order for it to be compulsory. Thus, compulsory counterclaims will have supplemental jurisdiction whenever necessary (i.e., when they do not have another basis of jurisdiction).
If you did the earlier part, you may recall that section 1367 distinguishes between cases originally brought under federal question jurisdiction and cases originally brought under diversity. Is that a problem for counterclaims?
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Jump straight to "SMJ 21Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 21N". |
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Now let's look at permissive counterclaims.
In general, permissive counterclaims are not within the court's supplemental jurisdiction. Thus, there must be an independent basis for jurisdiction over a permissive counterclaim. Why is that?
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| A | Permissive counterclaims are never federal questions |
| B | Permissive counterclaims are not related to the main claim |
| C | Permissive counterclaims are not within the federal rules |
| D | Permissive counterclaims require additional parties |
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No, that isn't right. They can be federal questions and, if they are, they are also within the court's subject matter jurisdiction. |
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Correct. By definition, permissive counterclaims are those that do not arise from the transaction or occurrence that forms the basis of the main claim. Thus, they lack the "relatedness" required by section 1367. (They would not form a single Article 3 "case" with the main claim.) After feedback jump to "SMJ 23". |
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No. See Rule 13(b) ("Rule 13(b)") . |
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No. Perhaps you need to review the section on counterclaims. |
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To summarize, then, the answer to supplemental jurisdiction for counterclaims is found in their definition. Compulsory counterclaims are defined so as to make them sufficiently related to the main claim to have supplemental jurisdiction. Permissive counterclaims are by definition unrelated.
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CROSS CLAIMS AND SUPPLEMENTAL JURISDICTION
What do we know about cross-claims that is relevant to the existence of supplemental jurisdiction?
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| A | They are permissive |
| B | They are between co-parties |
| C | They must arise from the same transaction or occurrence as the main claim (or a counterclaim) |
| D | They can be claims for indemnity between co-parties |
| E | They are compulsory |
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Not really relevant. This does not satisfy any of the conditions of supplemental jurisdiction. |
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There is no requirement that supplemental jurisdiction be limited to (or not include) claims between co-parties. (As to any limitations, consider counterclaims.) |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 24C". |
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This does not satisfy (or contradict) any of the conditions of supplemental jurisdiction. |
| E |
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Cross-claims are not compulsory! |
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So, as with compulsory counterclaims, the definition of a cross-claim provides the necessary conditions to assert supplemental jurisdiction. And, because Rule 13 is not listed in section 1367(b), we need not worry whether the jurisdictional basis of the original claim is diversity or federal question.
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Third Party Claims and Supplemental Jurisdiction Let's start with a simple claim:
A (Arizona) v. B (Connecticut)
Now add a third-party claim: A (Arizona) v. B (Connecticut) v. C (Connecticut)
Obviously, the claim of B v. C lacks diversity and, for the moment, assume it is not a federal question claim, either. What would give it subject matter jurisdiction?
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| A | Third-party claims must derive from the main claim |
| B | Both B and C are diverse from A |
| C | Third-party claims need not be for the entire amount of the main claim |
| D | All of the above |
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Right. Rule 14 requires the third-party claim to be against someone who may be liable to the defendant for the defendant's liability to plaintiff. Thus, C's liability to B is dependent on B's liability to A. This satisfies the test of section 1367(a). After feedback jump to "SMJ 27". |
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Irrelevant. A has no claim against C, so C's diversity from A does not matter. The third-party claim is between B and C only and they are not diverse. |
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This is true, but irrelevant for subject matter jurisdiction. |
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No. Answers #2 and #3 are irrelevant for subject matter jurisdiction. |
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Obtaining jurisdiction over the third-party claim is the easy part. As we saw earlier, there are many other possible claims permitted by Rule 14 once a third-party defendant is added. Let's consider whether supplemental jurisdiction exists for those claims.
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Consider this suit. Assume A v. B is a federal antitrust suit. Now, if after B impleads C, A makes a claim for $100,000 against C under state law which is permitted by Rule 14(a) , is there subject matter jurisdiction over the A v. C claim?

Choices
| A | Yes - federal question jurisdiction |
| B | Yes - diversity jurisdiction |
| C | Yes - supplemental jurisdiction |
| D | No |
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| A |
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No. The A v. C claim is under state law and it cannot use the federal question jurisdiction of the main claim. |
| B |
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Correct. Now we'll change the facts slightly. After feedback jump to "SMJ 29". |
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No. It isn't necessary to use supplemental jurisdiction here. |
| D |
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Incorrect. There is jurisdiction. Look carefully and see what kind. |
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Consider this suit. A v. B is still a federal antitrust suit. Again, if after B impleads C, A makes a claim for $100,000 against C under state law which is permitted by Rule 14(a) , is there subject matter jurisdiction over the A v. C claim?

Choices
| A | Yes - federal question jurisdiction |
| B | Yes - diversity jurisdiction |
| C | Yes - supplemental jurisdiction |
| D | No. |
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No. The A v. C claim is under state law and cannot use the federal question jurisdiction of the main claim. |
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No. Now there is no diversity between A and C. |
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Ok. The "relatedness" requirement of section 1367 (a) is met because Rule 14 requires that this claim be related to the main claim. Now we'll change the facts some more. After feedback jump to "SMJ 30". |
| D |
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Incorrect. There is jurisdiction. Look again and see what kind. |
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Consider this suit. Now assume that A v. B is a $100,000 tort suit for negligence under state law. Again, if after B impleads C, A makes a claim for $100,000 against C under state law which is permitted by Rule 14(a), is there subject matter jurisdiction over the A v. C claim?
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| A | Yes - federal question jurisdiction |
| B | Yes - diversity jurisdiction |
| C | Yes - supplemental jurisdiction |
| D | No |
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No. The A v. C claim is under state law and now even the A v. B claim does not have federal question jurisdiction. (It does have diversity jurisdiction, however.) |
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No. Now there is no diversity between A and C. |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 30C". |
| D |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 30D". |
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05/14/2007 DQ added missing image.
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Now suppose that C wants to make a claim under state law against A for $100,000. Can supplemental jurisdiction exist for that claim?
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| A | It depends on whether it is a counterclaim to a claim by A vs. C |
| B | No |
| C | Yes, assuming it is related to the claim of A v. B |
| D | Yes, no matter what the nature of the claim |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 31A". |
| B |
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Incorrect. There are circumstances under which there will be supplemental jurisdiction. Either try another answer or go back to the menu and review the concepts. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 31C". |
| D |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 31D". |
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If the claim is unrelated, then it could not be brought under Rule 14, unless it is a permissive counterclaim ("Permissive Counterclaims-General") to a claim by A v. C. But why can this claim (if related) be brought under supplemental jurisdiction when a claim by A v. C may not?
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| A | C v. A is not based solely on diversity |
| B | C v. A is not a claim by the plaintiff |
| C | C v. A is permitted by Rule 14 and A v. C is not |
| D | A v. C had an insufficient amount in controversy ($100,000) |
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That's a strange answer. C v. A is a state law claim and there is no diversity between C and A. But I think you are confusing this claim with A v. B, which is the claim that would trigger the "based solely on diversity" language in section 1367. |
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Correct. The limitation in section 1367 is to claims by plaintiffs. The reason is that such claims may be clandestine methods of circumventing diversity. Claims by C would not be suspect in this way since C is an involuntary party. (Go to the Index and review Third-party Claims for more information.) After feedback jump to "SMJ 33". |
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Not true. As long as they are related to the A v. B claim, both are permitted by Rule 14. |
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A totally irrelevant concern. (Supplemental jurisdiction does not require amount in controversy.) Try another response! |
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There are a few other possibilities one could ponder, but they are all simply applications of concepts we have already discussed. Therefore, I am leaving it up to you to think about those other claims. Let's go back to the menu and look at subject matter jurisdiction for another type of joinder.
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INTERVENTION
In this example, I has moved to intervene as a defendant in the action as of right. Naturally, if there is complete diversity, or if A v. I is a federal question, there is no jurisdiction problem. However, if there is no diversity between A and I and A v. I is not a federal question, is there supplemental jurisdiction?
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| A | Yes |
| B | No |
| C | It depends on the nature of the A v. B claim |
| D | Only if I has a claim against A or B |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 34-A". |
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Jump straight to "SMJ 34-B". |
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An interesting answer. Shall we start with the basics? After feedback jump to "SMJ 34-B". |
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No. There is nothing in the supplemental jurisdiction statute requiring that the intervenor be asserting a claim for relief. |
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In our example, if A v. B is a diversity claim A could not have sued both I and B in one lawsuit. Therefore, doesn't intervention in this case distort the diversity rule, and isn't there the same collusion problem as was present for third-party claims?
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| A | That's right. So I (the intervenor) cannot use supplemental jurisdiction in a diversity case |
| B | No, there is still a basis for using supplemental jurisdiction |
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A logical answer, though a more thorough explanation might be useful. After feedback jump to "SMJ 36". |
| B |
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That is probably incorrect. |
| Shared response |
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Do you want an explanation? Yes. ("SMJ 35 Explanation") |
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There is another circumstance in which the as of right intervenor-defendant will not be allowed supplemental jurisdiction, even if it seems appropriate. What is it? (Type below, then press Grade) .
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Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " 19b"" indispensable"" 19(b)"" 19(B)"" indispensible"" indispensable" |
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Yes. If I is a party without whom the action cannot go forward, then there is no supplemental jurisdiction. If I is indispensable, then there really is no original action into which I can be injected because A v. B should have been dismissed. |
| contains any of these word(s) " mandatory"" compulsory"" compulsery"" compulsive" |
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You have the right idea, but you need to be a little more specific about the nature of I's status here. |
| does not contain any of these word(s) " 19b"" indispensable"" 19(b)"" 19(B)"" indispensible"" indispensable" |
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I'm sorry, but that is not the correct answer. (Be sure to check your spelling!) After feedback jump to "SMJ 36W". |
| If unrecognized answer |
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I'm sorry, but that is not the correct answer. (Be sure to check your spelling!) |
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If I intervenes as a plaintiff it is even more likely that supplemental jurisdiction will be denied because of the way that sec. 1367 is worded.
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Now, what about permissive intervenors?
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| A | They are always permitted supplemental jurisdiction |
| B | They may not satisfy the "relatedness" requirement of sec. 1367 |
| C | They are not really parties, so the issue does not arise |
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| A |
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No. |
| B |
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Good. Permissive intervention only requires a common question of law or fact. That does not necessarily satisfy the requirement of a single Article 3 case. Before sec. 1367, permissive intervenors were not normally considered ancillary. Section 1367 does not seem to change their status. On its face, 1367(a) seems to permit supplemental jurisdiction in federal question cases IF the permissive intervenor's claim is sufficiently related. However, some cases have indicated that the pre-1367 rule still applies to permissive intervenors. Enough said! After feedback jump to "SMJ 38". |
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They are parties, so the issue does arise. |
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That about does it for supplemental jurisdiction and intervention. Go back to the menu or choose another topic from the Index.
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Welcome to the review portion of the program. In this section, you will be able to see just how much you have learned about joinder of claims and parties.
You will be given a hypothetical fact situation and a number of questions about that hypothetical, designed to test your knowledge of the joinder rules.
You can return to the facts any time by pressing the Facts button (which is not on this screen). If you feel you need to look at the rules, or review some of the joinder concepts, you may use the Rules and Index buttons at the side.
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FACTS:
This is the story of the building of Notrump Gardens, a mausoleum and baseball stadium complex being built on a river bank in New Jersey, facing the New York City skyline. The owner of Notrump Gardens is Dorchester Notrump, a wealthy promoter of various projects (and himself). Mr. Notrump, who lives in New York City, wants Notrump Gardens to serve as a memorial to his family and to provide a safe place for his remains -- a place from which he cannot be evicted and which will not go condo. He also hopes to attract a major league baseball team to be called ThreeNotrump. (Notrump is a bridge player, not a baseball fan.)
Notrump hired Bumbling Builders as the general contractor for the project. (Bumbling is a Delaware corporation, principally located in Connecticut.) Bumbling in turn hired Paola, a well- known designer from Fresno, California, to design the mausoleum and stadium, and Rockinghorse Corporation (a New Jersey corporation principally located in Bayonne, New Jersey) as the subcontractor in charge of the concrete work for the mausoleum. Rockinghorse arranged to purchase the needed concrete from Lackluster Industries, a New York corporation, principally located in New York.
The contract between Rockinghorse and Lackluster provided that Lackluster would supply prestressed concrete to Rockinghorse on a particular schedule. Unfortunately for all concerned, the project did not go well. There was a lot of rain in the spring, there were changes in the project ordered by Notrump (principally a large concrete sculpture of himself to be mounted on the mausoleum), and the concrete cracked. Rockinghorse ended up being fired before the job was completed. Before that, it had paid $250,000 to Lackluster for concrete.
Lackluster had sent a batch of concrete for which it was never paid. This batch was worth $60,000. When Rockinghorse was fired, its president, Susan Diamond, told Lackluster that it (Rockinghorse) considered its debt to Lackluster paid in full. Lackluster, not very respectfully, disagreed.
Lackluster decided to sue Rockinghorse in the United States District Court in New Jersey for the value of the concrete for which Lackluster had not been paid.
Author notes
05/01/2009 DQ changed $40,000 to $60,000 per author instructions.
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Is this case properly brought in the federal court?
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Question
Suppose Lackluster has another claim against Rockinghorse for $20,000 arising from a project unrelated to Notrump Gardens. Can Lackluster add that claim to the other claim to create federal jurisdiction?
Choices
| A | No |
| B | Yes, because it is a compulsory claim under Rule 19 |
| C | Yes, under the supplemental jurisdiction statute |
| D | Yes, using Rule 18 and claim aggregation |
| E | Yes, because there is personal jurisdiction over Rockinghorse |
Response
| A |
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Jump straight to "Review 4A". |
| B |
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Rule 19 deals with compulsory joinder of parties, not claims. Moreover, it would not apply here where there is no "absent" party to an existing claim. |
| C |
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An interesting thought. However, supplemental jurisdiction requires that there be a federal claim to which we can attach the supplemental claim. Thus far, we have no federal claim to which we can attach this claim. |
| D |
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Right. Rule 18 allows joinder even of unrelated claims. In addition, plaintiff may aggregate unrelated claims against a party to reach the jurisdictional amount. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
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No. Personal jurisdiction does not give authority to join claims! Obviously you need some review. |
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Question
Note: For all the questions that follow, assume that personal jurisdiction exists over all parties.
Can Rockinghorse, who believes that misery loves company, bring both Notrump and Bumbling into this action as defendants in the claim brought by Lackluster?
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Jump straight to "Review 5Y". |
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Jump straight to "Review 5N". |
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Is there some way that Rockinghorse could force Notrump and Bumbling to become part of this litigation?
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Jump straight to "Review 6Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "Review 6N". |
| Maybe |
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Jump straight to "Review 6M". |
Author notes
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If Notrump and Bumbling have claims that they wish to pursue against each other, can they bring those claims into this litigation?
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Yes, No or MaybeResponse
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Jump straight to "Review 7Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "Review 7N". |
| Maybe |
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Jump straight to "Review 7M". |
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If Lackluster has a claim for $85,000 against Bumbling for failing to pay lackluster for concrete supplied on the Notrump Gardens project, can Lackluster bring that claim into this case?
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Jump straight to "Review 8Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "Review 8N". |
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Question
Suppose Lackluster (the plaintiff, in case you've forgotten) has a claim against Notrump for $80,000 for failure to pay for concrete used in Notrump Gardens. Can Lackluster join that claim in this action?
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Jump straight to "Review 9Y". |
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Jump straight to "Review 9N". |
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Can Bumbling bring a claim for $80,000 against Rockinghorse in this case?
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Jump straight to "Review 10Y". |
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Under what circumstances would Bumbling be forced to bring the claim? (Type your answer in the box below)
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " cross" |
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Cross-claims are by definition permissive, not compulsory. Go back and try again. (And are they co-parties in the first place?) |
| contains any of these word(s) " 13"" thirteen" |
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Jump straight to "Review 11-13". |
| contains any of these word(s) " ancil"" supplemen" |
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If the claim is compulsory, then it almost certainly will have supplemental jurisdiction. However, you need to explain why it is compulsory. Try again. |
| contains all of these word(s) " transac"" same"" implead"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains all of these word(s) " occur"" same"" implead"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains all of these word(s) " ocur"" same"" implead"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains all of these word(s) " transac"" same"" third"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains all of these word(s) " occur"" same"" third"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains all of these word(s) " ocur"" same"" third"" counter"" compuls" |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| contains any of these word(s) " relat"" third" |
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This is the essence of the answer, but I would like you to use the proper language. Try once again. |
| contains any of these word(s) " relat"" implead" |
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This is the essence of the answer, but I would like you to use the proper language. Try once again. |
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Jump straight to "Review 11U". |
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Can Notrump bring a claim against Lackluster for $80,000 for poor concrete work, which caused delays and other damages on the Notrump Gardens project?
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Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Jump straight to "Review 12Y". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "Review 12N". |
Author notes
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Question
Assume now that Notrump has brought his claim against Lackluster. Can Lackluster now bring the claim against Notrump for failure to pay for concrete used on the Notrump Gardens project?
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Jump straight to "Review 13Y". |
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I am not sure what your problem is then. The claim is a counterclaim to Notrump's claim and arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the main claim, thus meeting sec. 1367's "relatedness" requirement. If not barred by Owen (or 1367(b)), then it certainly is authorized by the rules and seems otherwise permissible under sec. 1367. If you want an explanation of why Owen does not apply, press the EXPLAIN link below. Otherwise press Continue to go to the next question. EXPLAIN ("Review 13: Explanation") |
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Question
Rockinghorse believes that a combination of poor concrete work by Lackluster and poor design and supervision by Paola (if you don't remember Paola, review the facts) caused Rockinghorse to be removed from the Notrump Gardens project. Assuming that Rockinghorse will bring a counterclaims against Lackluster, how, if at all, can Rockinghorse bring a claim against Paola in this action?
Choices
| A | It can use Rule 13(a) |
| B | It can use Rule 13(h) |
| C | It can use Rule 14(a) |
| D | It can use Rule 18 |
| E | It can use Rule 20(a) |
| F | It cannot bring in Paola |
Response
| A |
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No, that isn't correct. Although Rule 13(a) grants authority to bring the counterclaim against Lackluster, it does not provide for the joinder of Paola. |
| B |
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Very good. |
| C |
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No. Rockinghorse is acting in the position of a plaintiff here, not a defendant. Therefore, bringing in a third-party defendant is not the proper procedure. (Now, if Rockinghorse did not join Paola, Lackluster might use Rule 14 to do it.) |
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No. Rule 18 deals with claim joinder, not party joinder. |
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Only indirectly true. Rule 20 does allow joinder of parties and is relevant to the answer, but it is not the best answer to the question. |
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Sorry, but that's not right. |
| Shared response |
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Rule 13(h) specifically allows for the joinder of additional parties to a counterclaim (or cross-claim) under the circumstances provided for in Rules 19 and 20. In this case, because the claims against Lackluster and Paola arise from the same series of transactions and occurrences (the concrete work and its supervision), Rule 20 -- and thus Rule 13(h) -- would be satisfied. |
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Text
This lesson refers to the following:
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure:
Rule 13(a) ("Rule 13(a)")
Rule 13(b) ("Rule 13(b)")
Rule 13(e) ("Rule 13(e)")
Rule 13(g) ("Rule 13(g)")
Rule 13(h) ("Rule 13(h)")
Rule 14 ("Rule 14")
Rule 18 ("Rule 18")
Rule 19 ("Rule 19")
Rule 20 ("Rule 20")
Rule 21 ("Rule 21")
Rule 22 ("Rule 22")
Rule 24 ("Rule 24")
Rule 42 ("Rule 42")
Rule 82 ("Rule 82")
28 USCS §§
1331 ("Section 1331")
1332 ("Section 1332")
1335 ("Section 1335")
1367 ("Section 1367")
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| Claim 2N | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Claim 2" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | You cannot join more than one claim in a single lawsuit |
| B | The claims are not related |
| C | There is no subject matter jurisdiction |
Response
| A |
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No. Rule 18 says you can join more than one claim in any lawsuit. Try again. After feedback jump to "Claim 2". |
| B |
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No. Rule 18 does not require that the claims be related. It just says that you can join as many claims as you have against an opposing party. You may wish to review Rule 18 ("Rule 18") again. After feedback jump to "Claim 2". |
| C |
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The question told you to assume that subject matter jurisdiction exists. If you have another reason, exit this pop-up window. After feedback jump to "Claim 2". |
| Shared response |
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Let's return to the previous question. |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
2/20/2003 ACG Potential trap (only a "return" link in the response...enabled the forward button, added direct branching to responses, and added a shared response)
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Question
Even though the two claims are not at all related?
Choices
| A | Yes, that's right |
| B | No, that isn't allowed. I guess you can't bring them together |
Response
| A |
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Correct. Rule 18 does not require that the claims be related for them to be joined. So P can join the two claims even though they are totally unrelated After feedback jump to "Claim 3". |
| B |
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Sorry, but you should have stuck with your original answer. Rule 18 does not require that the claims be related in order for them to be joined in a single lawsuit. (You may wish to review Rule 18 ("Rule 18") again.) |
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| Compulsory 9N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Compulsory 10" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | Both Tenant and Subtenant can be protected in other ways (such as intervention) |
| B | Landlord can use Rule 20 to join them |
| C | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Landlord wants to join them both. Therefore, no other means of protection are necessary (such as intervention) unless they cannot otherwise be joined. Joinder under Rule 20 should be adequate here. But note that party joinder under Rule 20 is somewhat broader than compulsory joinder. |
| B |
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That is the best answer. Whatever the merits of Rule 19 here, if Landlord wants to join them, and Rule 20 permits the joinder (which it does), then there is no need to use compulsory joinder. But note that party joinder under Rule 20 is somewhat broader than compulsory joinder. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 10". |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 9". |
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| Compulsory 9Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Compulsory 10" |
Question
Why?
Choices
| A | Tenant has an interest that must be protected |
| B | Subtenant has an interest that must be protected |
| C | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Does that really matter? Remember, Landlord WANTS to join both in the same suit. |
| B |
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Does that really matter? Remember, Landlord WANTS to join both in the same suit. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 9". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Compulsory 10M | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Compulsory 11" |
Question
Why maybe?
Choices
| A | It depends on whether Pilot is at fault |
| B | It depends on whether Maker is at fault |
| C | It depends on whether Maker adequately represents Pilot's interests |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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No. victim and Maker still could resolve their issues and then sue Pilot separately. |
| B |
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If Maker is at fault, Victim wins. If not, Victim loses. That doesn't seem to make a difference in terms of Pilot's participation. |
| C |
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No such requirement exists in Rule 19(a). |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 11". |
Author notes
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| Compulsory 10N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Compulsory 11" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | If Pilot is partly or wholly at fault then Maker could not recover from Pilot |
| B | If Pilot is partly or wholly at fault Victim could not recover |
| C | Both of the above |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Maker could sue Pilot in a separate action if necessary. |
| B |
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Victim can recover whatever is possible from Maker in this action and if necessary recover anything else from Pilot in a separate action. |
| C |
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Either party could file a separate action against Pilot if that becomes necessary. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 10". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Compulsory 10Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Compulsory 11" |
Question
But if Pilot is partly or completely at fault, doesn't that mean complete relief cannot be granted?
Choices
| A | No, because it does not prevent complete relief between Victim and Maker |
| B | No, because Pilot cannot be joined |
| C | Yes, I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Correct. The relevant parties here are Victim and Maker. Even if Pilot is not there and is at fault, the court can resolve the dispute between the parties to the suit and leave any other issues for a later suit against Pilot. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 11". |
| B |
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You don't know whether that is true or not. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 10". |
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Question
Consider these possible interests:
* Pilot may be harmed by the precedent set by Victim v. Maker
* If Maker defends badly and loses, then Maker will sue Pilot and Pilot will lose
* If Maker defends well and wins, then Victim may sue Pilot
Do any of these interests or problems satisfy the rule?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Then I'll send you over to the "Yes" answer for the previous question so that you can pick which interest satisfies the rule. If you think you made an error in this question, exit this pop-up and try again. Continue to Yes answer ("Compulsory 11Y") After feedback jump to "Compulsory 11Y". |
| No |
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Correct. Pilot cannot be harmed by any "precedent" because it would only relate to Maker's fault, not Pilot's. Similarly, there can be no preclusive effect on Pilot, who is not a party. That Victim may sue Pilot is not a problem caused by Pilot's absence -- if Pilot were joined, Pilot would then be not better off. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 12". |
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Question
How so?
Choices
| A | If Victim loses, Victim will then sue Pilot |
| B | If Maker loses, Maker may sue Pilot |
| C | The precedent set by Victim v. Maker may be hard for Pilot to overcome |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Maybe, but that doesn't put Pilot in any worse position than the present. |
| B |
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Possibly. but Pilot cannot be bound by the result of the Victim v. Maker suit because Pilot is not a party. |
| C |
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The only precedent would relate to Maker's fault, not Pilot's. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 11". |
Author notes
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| Compulsory 12N | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Compulsory 13" |
Question
Suppose Maker wins against Victim and then Maker loses to Pilot, after Victim sues Pilot. Wouldn't that impose inconsistent obligations on Maker?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Incorrect |
| No |
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Correct. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 13". |
| Shared response |
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The results may be inconsistent, but Maker certainly can carry out the obligations of both verdicts without difficulty. Moreover, this is hardly a "substantial risk." (Maker could eliminate any risk by making Pilot a third-party defendant.) |
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Question
In what way?
Choices
| A | Both Victim and Pilot may have actions against Maker, leading to double liability. |
| B | If Maker wins against Victim and then loses to Pilot that would be an inconsistent verdict. |
| C | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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I disagree. Maker would be liable to each for separate reasons. Maker would be paying Victim for injuries caused to Victim. Unless Pilot was injured (which would be entirely separate), Maker could only be liable to Pilot if Victim sued Pilot and won, then Pilot sued Maker. Since victim already would have sued Maker, Victim could not get a double recovery from Pilot |
| B |
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I disagree. The results may be inconsistent, but Maker certainly can carry out the obligations of both verdicts without difficulty. Moreover, this is hardly a "substantial risk." (Maker could eliminate any risk by making Pilot a third-party defendant.) |
| C |
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This is correct. Please go back to the previous question and change your answer. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 12". |
Author notes
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| Compulsory 16-1 | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Compulsory 17" |
Question
Why can't complete relief be granted without Sally?
Choices
| A | Sally might sue the Bank |
| B | Harry might sue Sally |
| C | I was wrong. |
Response
| A |
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But between Harry and the Bank the case would be resolved, and that is what the rule really asks about. |
| B |
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However, between Harry and the Bank the case would be resolved. Harry would have lost. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 16". |
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Question
Sally's interest is in her stock. Since she is not a party, how would that interest be impaired?
Choices
| A | She is bound by the Bank's actions here |
| B | If the Bank loses, it issues her shares to Harry |
| C | If the Bank wins, Harry will sue her for breach of contract |
| D | I was wrong about her interest |
Response
| A |
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No. She cannot be bound by the Bank's actions here |
| B |
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That's correct. The Bank also has a great risk of double liability, which you overlooked in the previous question. If Harry wins, Sally may sue the Bank. She is not bound by this decision so she also may win, which would be a problem for the Bank. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 17". |
| C |
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Possibly, but that does not involve this lawsuit. That would be a separate problem. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 16". |
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Question
Why doesn't Sally have a sufficient interest that may, as a practical matter, be impaired by her absence?
Choices
| A | She has no interest in this suit at all |
| B | As a non-party she cannot be bound |
| C | I was wrong |
Response
| A |
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That's not so. What about her stock? |
| B |
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That is true in the formal sense. But that doesn't mean the court can't do anything that might harm Sally's interest, say, in her stock. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 16-C". |
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Question
Sally's interest is in her stock. Since she is not a party, how would that interest be impaired?
Choices
| A | She is bound by the Bank's actions here |
| B | If the Bank loses, it issues her shares to Harry |
| C | If the Bank wins, Harry will sue her for breach of contract |
Response
| A |
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No. She cannot be bound by the Bank's actions here. |
| B |
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That's right. You are also correct that the Bank may incur double liability. If Harry wins, Sally may sue the Bank. She is not bound by this decision so she may also win, which would be a problem for the Bank. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 17". |
| C |
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Possibly, but that does not involve this lawsuit. That would be a separate problem. |
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| Compulsory 19N | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Compulsory 19N-2" |
Question
If Harry sues Sally and the Bank in the state court of Ohio is there subject matter jurisdiction?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Correct. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 19N-2". |
| No |
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Sorry. The state court has general subject matter jurisdiction. It can hear almost any kind of case. |
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Question
Can the state court exert personal jurisdiction over Sally?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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That's correct. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 21". |
| No |
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Incorrect. Sally is an Ohio citizen, remember? Personal jurisdiction should not be a problem |
| Shared response |
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If subject matter and personal jurisdiction are available, then, assuming the parties are properly joined under state law, there should be no problem. |
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| Compulsory 19Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Compulsory 21" |
Question
Which one?
Choices
| A | Federal court in Ohio |
| B | Federal court in Florida |
| C | State court in Ohio |
| D | State court in Florida |
| E | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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That is where the action was brought to begin with. Sally's presence there would destroy diversity. |
| B |
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No. Sally's presence in any federal court would destroy diversity. |
| C |
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Yes. Subject matter jurisdiction is no problem and everyone is amenable to service of process there. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 21". |
| D |
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Maybe, but it would depend on whether Sally is amenable to service in Florida, which is doubtful. A better answer would be the state court of Ohio. |
| E |
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Jump straight to "Compulsory 19". |
| Next page: "Compulsory 21" | [TOP] |
| Compulsory 21U | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Which of these is closest to your response?
Choices
| A | The court could order that the Bank issue the shares to Sally and order Sally to assign them to Harry |
| B | The court could order that the Bank issue the shares to Harry but order Harry to hold them until he resolves his dispute with Sally |
| C | The court could order that Harry and Sally jointly own the disputed shares |
| D | The court could order that the Bank issue the disputed shares to Harry |
| E | Something else |
Response
| A |
|
The court has no power to order Sally, a non-party, to assign her shares. |
| B |
|
This is an interesting idea. It might solve the problem. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 22". |
| C |
|
This would not really solve the issue and the court's power to do that in Sally's absence is at least dubious. |
| D |
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That would not solve the Bank's problem of potential double liability. |
| E |
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Well, I'm not sure what you might have written, but I can tell you that something along the lines of Harry holding the shares in trust pending later litigation might be feasible. After feedback jump to "Compulsory 22". |
| Next page: "Contents" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 10D | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 11" |
Question
Isn't Defendant's counterclaim also part of a defense to the main claim?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Then it is related (and the counterclaim would be compulsory). [Markus v. Dillinger, 191 F. Supp. 732] After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 11". |
| No |
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If Defendant proves the counterclaim, it also will show that the "loan" was not a loan. Therefore, the two are related. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 11" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 10S | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 11" |
Question
But Defendant's counterclaim involves work allegedly done and other transactions apart from the checks at issue in Plaintiff's complaint. Doesn't that mean that the two are NOT related?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Sorry. The counterclaim would also provide grounds for a defense to the loan. They are related. |
| No |
|
Correct. (The counterclaims would be a defense to the "loan" allegation.) After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 11". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 11" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 11D-1 | Page type: Simple buttons | All Maybes | Next page: "Counterclaims 12" |
Question
But if the copyright claim is simply an example of the kind of monopoly practices of which Lexis complains, aren't the claims logically related?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11D-2Y". |
| No |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11D-2". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Counterclaims 12" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 11D-2 | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 12" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | The outcome of the copyright claim will not necessarily change the claim by Lexis |
| B | The laws involved in each claim are different |
| C | A copyright claim cannot be mixed with an antitrust claim |
| D | I was mistaken - they are related |
Response
| A |
|
Good. In the actual case, this was the critical point. The court then decided that the Lexis counterclaim was not compulsory. However, it arose in a somewhat unusual fashion. Lexis and West each brought separate lawsuits. West then moved to transfer and consolidate the two actions. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 12". |
| B |
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Whether the laws are the same or not is not crucial. What matters is the total logical relationship -- which is largely factual, rather than strictly legal. |
| C |
|
Not true. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11D-1". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 12" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 11D-2Y | Page type: Simple buttons | All Maybes | Next page: "Counterclaims 12" |
Question
Then your answer makes no sense. If they are logically related, then your answer should have been that they arise from one transaction or occurrence. If you want to say that the claims are NOT logically related, press the Not button below. Otherwise, press the Start button and we'll start this question again.
Choices
NOT or STARTResponse
| NOT |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11D-2". |
| START |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Counterclaims 12" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 11S-1 | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 12" |
Question
Suppose West wins its copyright claim. Will Lexis' antitrust claim be extinguished?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
It shouldn't be. Lexis' antitrust claim is based on a variety of allegations, only one of which has anything to do with West's claim. |
| No |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 11S-2". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 12" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 11S-2 | Page type: Simple buttons | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 12" |
Question
That being the case, do you still think the claims arise from the same transaction or occurrence?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Well, that isn't unreasonable. But in the actual case, the court was persuaded that that made the two claims arise from different transactions or occurrences. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 12". |
| No |
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That is also what the court held -- that they were not so related that the Lexis claim was a compulsory counterclaim. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 12". |
| Shared response |
|
However, it arose in a somewhat unusual setting. The claims were brought in two separate actions and West moved to transfer and consolidate the Lexis action with its own. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 12" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 12D | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 13" |
Question
Does the fact that both claims involve the same policy make you want to change your answer?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 12S". |
| No |
|
It should. It makes logical sense to try them together, even though much of the evidence for each claim will be different. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 13" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 12S | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 13" |
Question
But the counterclaim for the loss will involve very different evidence (e.g., a showing of an accident) than the claim for fraud, which presumably happened at the inception of the policy. Do you want to change your answer?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
You should have stuck with your original answer. Indirectly, the loss claim involves the same policy and has been held to be the same transaction. |
| No |
|
Good. Both involve the same policy. It makes sense to try them together. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 13". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 13" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 13D | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Counterclaims 14" |
Question
Both the claim and the counterclaim arise from the same loan. How can they not be related?
Choices
| A | Borrower claims a federal violation while Lender's claim is under state law. |
| B | Borrower's claim is based on very different facts than Lender's claim |
| C | I made a mistake - they are transactionally related |
Response
| A |
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The claims only need to be transactionally related. It does not matter that one is federal and the other is not. |
| B |
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This is a good idea. The facts of Borrower's claim occurred at the inception of the loan, while the facts concerning payment occurred later. There is no overlap. Nevertheless, many (though not all) courts have found the two to be related. The countervailing consideration is one of policy - a fear of intimidating Borrower into not suing for TILA violations. |
| C |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 13S". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 14" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 13S | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 14" |
Question
Will most or all of the facts supporting Borrower's claim be the same as the facts supporting Lender's counterclaim?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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I don't think so. Borrower's claim is based on things that occurred when the loan was made. Lender's claim arose later, when Borrower refused to pay. |
| No |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 13S-2". |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 14" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 13S-2 | Page type: Simple buttons | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 14" |
Question
Do you still think the two claims arise from one "transaction or occurrence"?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Many (though not all) courts have so held. After all, the two claims relate back to the same loan. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 14". |
| No |
|
While your answer is not unreasonable, many courts disagree and hold that the claims are related. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 14". |
| Shared response |
|
The countervailing consideration is one of policy - a fear of intimidating Borrower into not suing for TILA violations. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 14" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 14N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Counterclaims 15" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | B's counterclaim does not arise from the same transaction or occurrence as the main claim of A |
| B | There is no indication of that in the question. |
| C | That isn't relevant, as long as the two claims are transactionally related, which they are (same shipment of widgets). |
| D | I want to change my previous answer. |
Response
| A |
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Not so. Both arise from the same shipment of widgets. Perhaps you need to review the meaning of "transaction or occurrence ("Transaction or Occurrence") ". |
| B |
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There is no indication of that in the question. Perhaps you need to review the meaning of "transaction or occurrence ("Transaction or Occurrence") ". |
| C |
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That isn't relevant, as long as the two claims are transactionally related, which they are (same shipment of widgets). Perhaps you need to review the meaning of "transaction or occurrence ("Transaction or Occurrence") ". |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Counterclaims 14". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
2/20/2009 ACG changed changed direct link back several questions into a link to a pop up with the definition of trans/occur (popup) and an option to move back several questions to review transn/occur.
| Next page: "Counterclaims 15" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 14Y | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 15" |
Question
Are you sure? A's claim is for goods sold and delivered; B's claim is for breach of warranty.
Choices
Yes, I'm Sure or No, I made a mistake.Response
| Yes, I'm Sure |
|
Correct. Both arise from the contract to ship the widgets. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 15". |
| No, I made a mistake. |
|
Sorry. They are transactionally the same -- both arise from the widget shipment contract. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 15" | [TOP] |
| Counterclaims 15N | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Counterclaims 16" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | B's claim does not arise from the same transaction or occurrence as A's claim |
| B | The theories of the two claims (goods sold and delivered and breach of warranty) are different |
| C | B's claim did not arise until after the service of the answer. |
| D | I made a mistake; it is compulsory |
Response
| A |
|
This is a plausible reason. But both claims arise from the same contract for monthly shipments of widgets. Thus, a court probably would find the two to be transactionally related. |
| B |
|
This really isn't relevant. The rule only asks whether the two claims arise from the same (factual) transaction or occurrence. |
| C |
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Yes. Rule 13(a) says the counterclaim must exist when the pleading (the answer, in this case) is served for it to be compulsory. After feedback jump to "Counterclaims 16". |
| D |
|
No, your answer was right, but you need to find the right reason. |
| Next page: "Counterclaims 16" | [TOP] |
| Cross 7N | Page type: Short answer | Not scored | Next page: "Cross 8" |
Question
But the contract claim still is unrelated. Why doesn't that prevent D1 from bringing it into the lawsuit? (Answer in the space provided, then press Grade.)
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains all of these word(s) " rule"" 18" |
|
Very good. Rule 18 specifically permits all claims, related or not, to be joined with a cross-claim. But first you need at least one proper cross-claim. After feedback jump to "Cross 8". |
| does not contain any of these word(s) " rule"" 18" |
|
Rule 18 ("Rule 18") provides that, once you have a proper cross-claim, you may join all other claims that you have against the opposing party. Thus, once there is a proper (related) cross-claim, the unrelated claim can be joined with it under |
| If unrecognized answer |
|
I don't recognize your answer. Please be specific. |
Hints
| Next page: "Cross 8" | [TOP] |
| Cross 7Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Cross 8" |
Question
Why?
Choices
| A | D1 and D2 are not co-parties |
| B | D1's claim is untimely |
| C | D1's breach of contract claim is unrelated to the main claim. |
| D | I'd like to change my previous answer. |
Response
| A |
|
They are co-parties, at least until D1 serves the cross-claim on D2. |
| B |
|
There is nothing in the question to indicate untimeliness. |
| C |
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It is true that the two claims are unrelated. However, under Rule 18 ("Rule 18") , once there is a proper cross-claim asserted, the cross claimant may assert any other available claims against that party, even if unrelated. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Cross 7". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Cross 8" | [TOP] |
| Cross 8Y | Page type: Simple buttons | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Cross 9" |
Question
Because it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the main claim, right?
Choices
Yes, No or Change Previous AnswerResponse
| Yes |
|
Sorry, but that doesn't make the cross-claim compulsory. The key language in Rule 13(g) is "may claim." This means that cross-claims are permissive, even though they are related to the main claim. This is a different situation from counterclaims ("Counterclaims: Pop-Up") . |
| No |
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Then I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. The key language in Rule 13(g) is "may claim." This means that cross-claims are permissive, even though they are related to the main claim. This is a different situation from counterclaims ("Counterclaims: Pop-Up") . |
| Change Previous Answer |
|
Jump straight to "Cross 8". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Cross 9" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 2M | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Intervention 3" |
Question
On what circumstances does it depend?
Choices
| A | Whether C's claim would have subject matter jurisdiction |
| B | Whether A can defend C's rights |
| C | Whether C's motion is timely |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
No. C could not intervene even if the claim has jurisdiction. (And besides, I told you to ignore that issue!) |
| B |
|
Since A's claim bears no relation to C's, it is hard to imagine how A could defend C's rights here. |
| C |
|
Even if C's motion is timely, there is no basis for intervention. |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 2". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Intervention 3" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 2N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 2M" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | A will adequately protect C's interests |
| B | C will destroy subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | C claims no interest relating to A's claim against B |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
That's not likely. A's claim has nothing to do with C's claim, so A won't represent C very well. |
| B |
|
The question says to ignore subject matter jurisdiction issues! |
| C |
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Right. We would not expect C to be allowed to intervene and disrupt A's lawsuit under such circumstances. After feedback jump to "Intervention 3". |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 2". |
| Next page: "Intervention 2M" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 2Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Intervention 3" |
Question
Why is that?
Choices
| A | The federal joinder rules are set up to resolve as many disputes in one suit as possible |
| B | A is not in a position adequately to assert C's rights |
| C | Rule 42(b) permits the court to sever claims if two trials prove necessary |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
True, but only up to a point. If it is not logical to join the claims, usually the rules do not permit it. |
| B |
|
True, but this is only one criterion of Rule 24(a). C can file a separate suit and C's rights here are not dependent on the outcome of A v. B. |
| C |
|
True, but do we really want to encourage joinder when no other economies result? |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 2". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
| Next page: "Intervention 3" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 6-N/M | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Intervention 7" |
Question
How could S protect his or her interests without intervening?
Choices
| A | By filing suit against T |
| B | By filing suit against L |
| C | By moving out |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
If all S wants is damages, and T is not judgment proof, that might work. But if S wants to continue to live in the premises a suit against T would be of little help. |
| B |
|
An interesting thought. However, once L wins against T, a subsequent court would say that it cannot overturn the result in L v. T (which is what S wants). |
| C |
|
Well, if S wants to continue to live in the subleased premises, moving out seems a poor way to advance that interest. |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 6". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Intervention 7" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 9A | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Intervention 10" |
Question
Explain (Pick one):
Choices
| A | A is not alleged to have violated the federal statute |
| B | It is in A's interest for the defendants to lose this case |
| C | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
True, but that does not mean A has no interest in the subject matter of the action, reasonably defined. A has an interest in the reefs in question - it claims to own them. That would seem to be sufficient. |
| B |
|
That may be. However, A still has an interest in the reefs, which are the subject matter of the action. The rule just says the interest must "relate to" the transaction that forms the basis of the suit. |
| C |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 9". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Intervention 10" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 9B | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 10" |
Question
Explain (Pick one):
Choices
| A | 1. As a non-party, A cannot be bound; A can assert its claims in another lawsuit. |
| B | A does not want to dredge the reefs; A wants to build on them. |
| C | The United States, a sovereign nation, has a clearly superior interest in the reefs .Therefore, A cannot be harmed since it has no chance of winning |
| D | If the United States wins, A will be helped because it will extinguish the competing claims of VP |
| E | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
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Jump straight to "Intervention 9B-1". |
| B |
|
That really doesn't matter. Try another answer. |
| C |
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That is what this suit is about. If A is right, then US does not have a superior right. Try another answer. |
| D |
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Yes, but what if US loses? Then A is in the position of having to fight the dredging by VP, if it can. |
| E |
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Jump straight to "Intervention 9". |
| Next page: "Intervention 10" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 9B-1 | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 10" |
Question
Precisely. The rules of claim preclusion (res judicata) provide that A cannot be bound by a suit in which it is not a party. Therefore, how can A be harmed here?
Nevertheless, A may be harmed by the US v. VP suit. How can that be?
Choices
| A | A second lawsuit will cost a great deal of money |
| B | The precedential effect of the lawsuit will be harmful |
| C | A may be sued for violating federal law |
Response
| A |
|
It will, but so will pursuing this suit. And this one has many parties, so it is likely to be expensive. |
| B |
|
That's right. No matter who wins, that party will have an interest antagonistic to A's. And if US wins it will establish a precedent that US is the owner of the reefs under the applicable law. While A could relitigate, it is unlikely to be able to overcome the existing legal precedent. On the other hand, intervention of right is not always permitted just because of potentially bad precedent. That would make things too easy. Every case establishes some precedent. If everyone affected by that precedent could intervene there would be chaos. But there are some factors a court can consider when deciding whether to permit intervention due to the establishment of precedent: FACTORS -- Is this lawsuit about the very same transaction as the intervenor's suit? -- Will the result in the pending case be more a matter of findings of fact than conclusions of law? (Only the latter would really be of precedential value.) After feedback jump to "Intervention 10". |
| C |
|
Not likely, since A does not appear to be in violation of any law at this time. |
| Next page: "Intervention 10" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 9C | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Intervention 10" |
Question
Explain (Pick one):
Choices
| A | The US represents the interests of all of its citizens |
| B | The VP will represent A's interests because they also claim an interest adverse to US |
| C | If the US wins, it will help establish that VP's rights cannot be superior to A's rights |
| D | I made a mistake |
Response
| A |
|
Not in this case. If US wins, it establishes its ownership. A also claims ownership and the two claims are not compatible. |
| B |
|
But A also claims that VP is trespassing on A's land. Surely VP cannot adequately represent A under those conditions. |
| C |
|
Perhaps. But US will also establish its own rights, which A wishes to contest. That puts US in a conflicting situation. |
| D |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 9". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
| Next page: "Intervention 10" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 11-2 | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 11-3" |
Question
Is it because the US has claims that are adverse to both A and VP?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
No. A and VP still could have compatible claims. |
| No |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 11-3". |
| Next page: "Intervention 11-3" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 11-3 | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 11" |
Question
Is it because A does not care whether or not they (VP) win?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
No. In fact, if they win, that could conceivably harm A's interests. After feedback jump to "Intervention 11". |
| No |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 11". |
| Shared response |
|
You've gone through them all! Let's try again ... |
| Next page: "Intervention 11" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13N | Page type: Simple buttons | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 13N-2" |
Question
Could Buyer and Victim have joined in the same suit against Lowlife under the rules of party joinder?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 13N-Y". |
| No |
|
Correct. The facts state that the two deals were unrelated. After feedback jump to "Intervention 13N-2". |
| Next page: "Intervention 13N-2" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13N-2 | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 14" |
Question
That being so, party joinder would not have applied. Why then is is possible for B to intervene?
Choices
| A | B is a Rule 19(a) party |
| B | B is a Rule 19(b) party |
| C | It is enough that there is a common legal issue |
| D | I made a mistake. B cannot intervene. |
Response
| A |
|
No. B does not satisfy the terms of the Rule. |
| B |
|
No. B does not satisfy the terms of the Rule. |
| C |
|
Yes. The Rule only requires that the intervenor have a question of law OR fact in common with the main claim. After feedback jump to "Intervention 14". |
| D |
|
No. You answered correctly. Just find the right reason. |
| Next page: "Intervention 14" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13N-Y | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 13N-2" |
Question
Did both claims arise from the same transaction or occurrence or series of transactions or occurrences?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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The facts state that the two deals were unrelated, so that is not right. |
| No |
|
Correct. The facts state that the two deals were unrelated. After feedback jump to "Intervention 13N-2". |
| Next page: "Intervention 13N-2" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13Y | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 13Y2" |
Question
Could Buyer and Victim have joined in the same suit against Lowlife under the rules of party joinder?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
Jump straight to "Intervention 13Y-Y". |
| No |
|
Correct. The facts state that the two deals were unrelated. After feedback jump to "Intervention 13Y2". |
| Next page: "Intervention 13Y2" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13Y2 | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 14" |
Question
That being so, party joinder would not have applied. Why then is is possible for B to intervene?
Choices
| A | B is a Rule 19(a) party |
| B | B is a Rule 19(b) party |
| C | It is enough that there is a common legal issue |
Response
| A |
|
No. B does not satisfy the terms of the Rule. |
| B |
|
No. B does not satisfy the terms of the Rule. |
| C |
|
Yes. The Rule only requires that the intervenor have a question of law OR fact in common with the main claim. After feedback jump to "Intervention 14". |
| Next page: "Intervention 14" | [TOP] |
| Intervention 13Y-Y | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Intervention 13Y2" |
Question
Did both claims arise from the same transaction or occurrence or series of transactions or occurrences?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
|
The facts state that the two deals were unrelated, so that is not right. |
| No |
|
Correct. The facts state that the two deals were unrelated. After feedback jump to "Intervention 13Y2". |
| Next page: "Intervention 13Y2" | [TOP] |
| Party 2N-1 | Page type: Short answer | Not scored | Next page: "Party 2N-2" |
Question
Sorry. Rule 20 does permit the two parties to be joined as defendants. You'll see why when we continue. Look again at RULE 20 ("Rule 20") -- carefully!
Rule 20 has two basic requirements to meet if you want to join parties like D1 and D2. Type the two requirements below.
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains all of these word(s) " same"" transaction"" occurrence"" series"" common"" law"" fact" |
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Correct. After feedback jump to "Party 2N-2". |
| contains all of these word(s) " same"" transaction"" occurrence"" series" |
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You're partly right. One element is that one claim against the defendants must arise from the same transaction or occurrence or series of transactions or occurrences. But you missed the second element. Try again (spelling counts, so you may want to check the rule for spelling). |
| contains all of these word(s) " common"" law"" fact" |
|
Partly correct. One requirement is that a claim against both defendants must raise a common issue of law or fact. But you missed the other requirement (perhaps you misspelled something?) Try again. |
| If unrecognized answer |
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I'm sorry, but neither of those answers is precisely correct. Try again. (Watch your spelling!) |
Hints
| Hint 1 | Reread Rule 20 ("Rule 20") and be precise. Check spelling as well. |
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Text
Unlike Rule 18, for example, which allows unlimited claim joinder, Rule 20 does not permit an unlimited joinder of parties. Before burdening the court and the parties with multiple party litigation the rule requires a certain degree of relatedness as evidenced by the two factors in the rule. Only if both factors are met will the joinder be permitted.
Rule 20 does not override the operation of other joinder restrictions such as Subject Matter Jurisdiction, Venue, and Personal Jurisdiction (all subjects that accessible through the Table of Contents or Index button) so remember to check for them as well.
Now let's try another hypothetical.
Author notes
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Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | The claims are unrelated or do not have common questions of law or fact. |
| B | The rule does not apply to plaintiffs. |
| C | I'd like to change my previous answer. |
Response
| A |
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No. The claims arise from the same accident. The common question is whether D1 is at fault. Under Rule 20, the plaintiffs could join together against D1. |
| B |
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The rule applies to plaintiffs as well as defendants. You may wish to jump to the Rule 20 ("Rule 20") and see it again. |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Party 5". |
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Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | The loan claim is not against both defendants |
| B | The loan claim is not related to the other claim |
| C | Both of the above |
| D | I'd like to change my answer. |
Response
| A |
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In a sense, this is correct. Strictly speaking, Rule 20 does not apply here. However, Rule 20(a)(3) does provide that a defendant need not be interested in defending against all claims (use Rules to see it if you want to). So Rule 20 does not prevent this joinder from occurring. The key is Rule 18 ("Rule 18") , which permits joinder of unrelated claims between persons already parties. |
| B |
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That in itself is not sufficient. Rule 18 ("Rule 18") permits the joinder of unrelated claims and Rule 20(a)(3) provides that a defendant need not be interested in defending all claims in the lawsuit. |
| C |
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Rule 20(a)(3) implicitly permits claims against fewer than all defendants -- it states that a defendant need not be interested in defending all of plaintiff's claims. (Although, strictly speaking, the Rule does not say that these claims are permissible.) That the claim is unrelated is not a problem. Rule 18 ("Rule 18") permits unrelated claims to be joined against another party. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Party 7". |
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Question
But the claim is only against one of the two defendants. Are you sure you don't want to change your answer?
Choices
| A | I think I'll change my answer |
| B | I don't want to change my answer |
Response
| A |
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Sorry, that's not right. Here's the pertinent language from Rule 20(a)(3): "Neither a plaintiff nor a defendant need be interested in obtaining or defending against all the relief demanded. The court may grant judgment to one or more plaintiffs according to their rights, and against one or more defendants according to their liabilities." |
| B |
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Good. Here is the pertinent language from Rule 20(a)(3): Neither a plaintiff nor a defendant need be interested in obtaining or defending against all the relief demanded. The court may grant judgment to one or more plaintiffs according to their rights, and against one or more defendants according to their liabilities. After feedback jump to "Party 7Y-2". |
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| Party 7Y-2 | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Party 8" |
Question
Why doesn't the fact that the loan claim is unrelated to the accident claim cause a problem?
Choices
| A | Rule 20 specifically permits joining such unrelated claims |
| B | Joinder of unrelated claims is permitted by another rule |
| C | I made a mistake! |
Response
| A |
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No. Rule 20 is silent on the matter. However, Rule 18 does apply and it permits unrelated claims against any opposing party once that party is a part of the lawsuit. (If you haven't seen the rule before, you can click here to see Rule 18 ("Rule 18") or click here to see the discussion on claim joinder ("Claim 1") .) |
| B |
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Good. Either you have learned the claim joinder section well or you are a good guesser! (if the latter, you can go directly to the discussion of claim joinder ("Claim 1") if you wish. After feedback jump to "Party 8". |
| C |
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No, your original thought was correct -- it is permissible to join this unrelated claim. However, it is Rule 18 and the principles of claim joinder that permit the joinder. (You can read Rule 18 ("Rule 18") or go to the discussion on claim joinder ("Claim 1") if you wish.) |
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| Review 3M | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Under what circumstances would there be subject matter jurisdiction?
Choices
| A | If there is personal jurisdiction over Rockinghorse |
| B | If there is supplemental jurisdiction over the claim |
| C | If the amount in controversy is over $75,000 |
Response
| A |
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No. Personal jurisdiction over Rockinghorse does not confer subject matter jurisdiction. The two concepts are entirely separate. Diversity might have been a logical answer because the parties do come from different states. However, the amount in controversy is only $60,000 (even though the total value of the contract is more than that). Therefore, the claim does not satisfy all of the requirements of 28 U.S.C. section 1332. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| B |
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No. In order for supplemental jurisdiction to exist, there must be a legitimate federal claim. So far, we have not established that there is a legitimate federal claim. Diversity might have been a logical answer because the parties do come from different states. However, the amount in controversy is only $60,000 (even though the total value of the contract is more than that). Therefore, the claim does not satisfy all of the requirements of 28 U.S.C. section 1332. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| C |
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Well, at least you are thinking along the right lines. It is true that if the parties are diverse (which they are) and the amount in controversy exceeds $75,000 then the federal court will have subject matter jurisdiction. However, you know from the question that the amount in controversy is only $60,000. Therefore, the correct answer was NO, there is no jurisdiction. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
05/01/2009 DQ changed $40,000 to $60,000 per author instructions.
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| Review 3N | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Notice that both parties are diverse. Do you still think that there is no basis for subject matter jurisdiction here?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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That's correct. Although the parties are diverse, the amount in controversy does not exceed the requisite amount of $75,000 under 28 U.S.C. section 1332. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| No |
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Sorry. You should have stuck to your original answer. Although the parties are diverse, there must be in excess of $75,000 in controversy. In this case, there is only $60,000 in controversy. Therefore, subject matter jurisdiction does not exist. |
Author notes
05/01/2009 DQ changed $40,000 to $60,000 per author instructions.
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| Review 3Y | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Review 4" |
Question
What is the basis for subject matter jurisdiction?
Choices
| A | Specific Jurisdiction |
| B | Diversity |
| C | Supplemental Jurisdiction |
| D | Federal Question |
| E | Other |
Response
| A |
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No. Specific jurisdiction is a personal jurisdiction concept. We are talking about subject matter jurisdiction here. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| B |
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Well, it is true that the parties are diverse. However, diversity requires that the amount in controversy between the parties exceed $75,000. In this case, although the original contract was for $250,000, the parties are only fighting over $60,000. That is the amount "in controversy." After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| C |
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In order for supplemental jurisdiction to exist, there first must be a valid federal claim. So far, we have not established that a valid federal claim exists. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| D |
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There is no federal question claim in this hypothetical. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| E |
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I'm not quite sure what you could be thinking about. If you are thinking about some sort of general subject matter jurisdiction then you are mistaken. That does not exist in federal court. A federal court's jurisdiction is defined by statute. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| Shared response |
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Diversity might have been a logical answer because the parties do come from different states. However, the amount in controversy is only $60,000 (even though the total value of the contract is more than that). Therefore, the claim does not satisfy all of the requirements of 28 U.S.C. section 1332. |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
05/01/2009 DQ changed $40,000 to $60,000 per author instructions.
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| Review 4A | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Review 5" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | No authority under the federal rules because the claims are unrelated |
| B | No subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | No specific jurisdiction |
| D | Both A and B |
| E | All of the above (A, B and C) |
Response
| A |
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No. Rule 18 allows claim joinder even of unrelated claims, against a single defendant. |
| B |
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Jump straight to "Review 4AB". |
| C |
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Specific jurisdiction is a personal jurisdiction concept. That is not applicable here. After feedback jump to "Review 4". |
| D |
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Rule 18 permits the joinder of all claims against a single defendant, even if unrelated. As to your concern with subject matter jurisdiction, that merits further attention. After feedback jump to "Review 4AB". |
| E |
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(1) Rule 18 permits joinder of claims, even unrelated ones, against a single defendant. (2) Specific jurisdiction is a personal jurisdiction concept and is not applicable here. (3) Subject matter jurisdiction is not a problem here because the plaintiff can aggregate even unrelated claims against a single defendant to reach the jurisdictional amount. Therefore, both the Federal Rules and the jurisdictional statutes permit this suit to be brought in federal court. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 4AB | Page type: Short answer | Not scored | Next page: "Review 5" |
Question
Lack of subject matter jurisdiction is an interesting answer, but one that really doesn't give any insight into your thinking. I'd like to follow up on that. Why do you think subject matter jurisdiction is a problem here? (Type a brief answer in your own words below, then press the GRADE button.)
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " aggreg" |
|
I thought that you might be concerned about aggregating the two unrelated claims. However, it is not a problem; plaintiff may aggregate any claims against a single defendant to reach the jurisdictional amount. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
| contains all of these word(s) " federal"" question" |
|
Although it is true that there is no federal question here, that is not a problem. We already have established that the parties are diverse; the only issue is whether there is a sufficient amount in controversy. Perhaps you thought that a federal question was needed because you believed that plaintiff cannot aggregate unrelated claims against Rockinghorse. That is not the case, however; the claims may be aggregated. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
| contains any of these word(s) " divers" |
|
No, we already have established that the parties are diverse. I thought perhaps you were concerned that plaintiff could not aggregate its claims to reach the jurisdictional amount. (That would not be a problem, either.) Remember: a single plaintiff may aggregate claims against a single defendant to reach the jurisdictional amount. Therefore, if the parties are diverse (which they are here) aggregation is permissible and creates jurisdiction. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
| contains any of these word(s) " join"" relat" |
|
No, under Rule 18 Lackluster may join even unrelated claims against a single defendant. (Your answer really does not relate to jurisdiction. I thought you might be concerned that Lackluster could not aggregate unrelated claims to reach the jurisdictional amount, but that would not be true in any case.) Remember: a single plaintiff may aggregate claims against a single defendant to reach the jurisdictional amount. Therefore, if the parties are diverse (which they are here) aggregation is permissible and creates jurisdiction. After feedback jump to "Review 5". |
| If unrecognized answer |
|
I can't understand your answer. Please try again. |
Hints
| Hint 1 | Hints: (Use only one!) - Plaintiff cannot aggregate claims - Plaintiff cannot join unrelated claims in this manner - There is no diversity - There is no federal question |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 5N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring Score group: Totals | Next page: "Review 6" |
Question
Rule 19 is a vehicle for adding absent people as parties to the action. What, if anything is the problem with using Rule 19?
Choices
| A | Rule 19 does not apply to defendants |
| B | Joining both Notrump and Bumbling would destroy diversity |
| C | Notrump and Bumbling are "indispensable" parties under Rule 19(b) |
| D | Rule 19 could not possibly apply to this situation |
| E | You are right! I made an error - Rule 19 does apply here |
Response
| A |
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That's not true. Rule 19 certainly can be used by defendants to add parties. |
| B |
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That's a good answer. Notrump and Lackluster are both New York citizens. Therefore, even if Notrump and Bumbling were parties who should be joined under Rule 19(a), they could not both be joined as defendants. It is very doubtful that Rule 19 applies to this situation anyway, but I will leave that to you to work out. (Also, it should be noted that Bumbling might be joined without Notrump since bumbling would not destroy diversity. That assumes that Notrump is not "indispensable.") After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| C |
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That almost certainly is false. But, even if it were true, Rule 19(b) would require dismissal of the action, not joinder. Thus, the two parties would not be capable of being joined. After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| D |
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That's a bit too strong. I would agree that it is highly unlikely that Rule 19 applies to this situation. However, one should be cautious about saying that it could not possibly apply. |
| E |
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You are giving up too easily. Try another answer. |
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| Review 5Y | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Which of the following rules or concepts provides the basis for the joinder?
Choices
| A | Rule 20 |
| B | Rule 19(a) |
| C | Supplemental jurisdiction |
| D | Rule 14 |
| E | Rule 24 |
Response
| A |
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No. Rule 20 does not give authority for a defendant to bring in additional parties as defendants to the main claim. After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| B |
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This is not a bad idea. You would have to decide whether the requirements of Rule 19(a) are met first. (However, it is not clear that this would be so.) The major problem is that Notrump would destroy diversity, which would preclude a joinder even if the rest of Rule 19(a) is satisfied. After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| C |
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Since the only authority for a defendant to bring in additional parties as defendants is Rule 19, supplemental jurisdiction cannot apply here. (Even if Lackluster wanted to bring in these parties, supplemental jurisdiction over Notrump would flounder on section 1367(b). After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| D |
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Rule 14 only applies where a defendant brings in non-parties as third-party defendants. It does not make the added parties defendants to the main claim, which is the point of the question. After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| E |
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Intervention under Rule 24 is at the behest of the absent party or parties, not of one already a party to the action. After feedback jump to "Review 6". |
| Shared response |
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Compulsory joinder is the best possible response, but even that is not entirely correct. Notrump would destroy diversity and Rule 19 cannot overcome that problem. Therefore, the correct answer to the original question (whether they can be joined as defendants by Rockinghorse) is No. Moreover, even if there were no diversity problem, it is far from clear that the absent parties would suffer the kind of prejudice required by Rule 19(a) or that Rockinghorse would risk multiple liability by their absence. Let's move on now. |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 6M | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Under what circumstances could they be joined?
Choices
| A | If there is personal jurisdiction over them |
| B | If there is subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | If they are compulsory parties |
| D | If they can be impleaded |
| E | If they can be impleaded |
| F | I made a mistake; send me back to the original question |
Response
| A |
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I already told you that personal jurisdiction is assumed to exist over any needed parties. |
| B |
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That depends on how they are joined. It may be that supplemental jurisdiction or some other form of jurisdiction will exist. Try again. |
| C |
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We already established that they are not compulsory parties in the last question. |
| D |
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That's a good idea. Let's explore that possibility some more. After feedback jump to "Review 6More". |
| E |
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That assumes that no other form of subject matter jurisdiction exists apart from diversity. I think you will find that that is not so. |
| F |
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Jump straight to "Review 6". |
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Question
Rule 14 has a contingency which must be satisfied. What must be true for it to be applicable here?
Choices
| A | There must be supplemental jurisdiction |
| B | The impleader must relate to the main claim |
| C | The third-party defendants must be liable to Rockinghorse for all or part of the main claim |
| D | There must be proper subject matter jurisdiction between each of the parties |
Response
| A |
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That's not right. If Rule 14 is applicable, supplemental jurisdiction will follow. |
| B |
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This is true, but it is not the best answer. |
| C |
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Correct. Let us assume now that both Bumbling and Notrump are properly impleaded into the action. After feedback jump to "Review 7". |
| D |
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This is incorrect if you mean other than supplemental jurisdiction. And if Rule 14 applies, supplemental jurisdiction (if needed) will follow. |
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Question
Why don't you think that they can be forced into the case? (Check as many answers as you think apply!)
Choices
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No authority under the rules |
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No subject matter jurisdiction |
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Something else |
Response
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| A | Well, I think there is authority under the rules. |
Well, I think there is authority under the rules. |
| B | If there is authority under the rules, there probably is supplemental jurisdiction |
If there is authority under the rules, there probably is supplemental jurisdiction. |
| C | I agree. I do think there is a way to join both of them in this action. |
Hmm. I'm not sure what you are thinking. But I do think there is a way to join both of them in this action. |
| If correct |
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I believe that there is authority under the rules, and that supplemental jurisdiction would be available once authority is established. |
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| Review 6Y | Page type: Short answer | Not scored | Next page: "Review 6More" |
Question
You may be correct, but I think some more discussion is required. How might Rockinghorse cause Bumbling and Notrump to become parties to this action? (Type your answer below, the press the Grade button.)
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " 14"" implead" |
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Right. Impleader under Rule 14 is the proper procedure. After feedback jump to "Review 6More". |
| contains all of these word(s) " third"" party" |
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Right. Impleader under Rule 14 is the proper procedure. After feedback jump to "Review 6More". |
| contains any of these word(s) " 24"" interven" |
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No, that is not a way for the defendant, Rockinghorse, to bring in additional parties. It is a way for absent parties to join the action. The most logical choice is to use Rule 14 and assert third-party claims against Bumbling and Notrump. |
| contains any of these word(s) " 19"" necess"" indispens"" indaspens"" indespens"" compuls" |
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We just discussed that, and we determined that it did not apply to this situation. The best choice is to assert third-party claims under Rule 14. After feedback jump to "Review 6More". |
| contains any of these word(s) " 22 interpl" |
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No, that doesn't apply here. Perhaps you are thinking of "impleader" under Rule 14. If so, then you are correct, but you need to brush up on your terminology. After feedback jump to "Review 6More". |
| If unrecognized answer |
|
I can't understand your answer. Please try again. |
Hints
| Hint 1 | Hint - use one of these answers: - Impleader - Interpleader - Compulsory joinder - Intervention |
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Question
Suppose that Bumbling claims that Notrump made changes in the Notrump Gardens project without a change order, as the contract required, and that this caused delays which then caused Bumbling to lose money. Could that claim be brought into this litigation?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Jump straight to "Review 7M Y". |
| No |
|
That's a strange answer. If there is a way to bring a claim between Bumbling and Notrump, then that claim ought to be it. (Remember that you are to assume that personal jurisdiction exists.) Let's explore the possibility of joining the claim a bit more. After feedback jump to "Review 7M Y". |
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Question
Which rule or rules provides the authority for joining this claim?
Choices
| A | Rule 13 |
| B | Rule 14(a) |
| C | Rule 18 |
| D | Rule 13(g) and Rule 14(a) |
| E | Rule 13(g) and Rule 18 |
| F | Rule 13(a) and Rule 14 |
Response
| A |
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Jump straight to "Review 7M YA". |
| B |
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Partly true. But there is a much better and more complete response. |
| C |
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No. Some other rule must be invoked first. |
| D |
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Right. Rule 14 tells the parties to make their claims against other parties according to the applicable rules (i.e., Rule 13), and this is properly denominated a cross claim between co-parties. After feedback jump to "Review 8". |
| E |
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Rule 13(g) is relevant, but Rule 18 is not. |
| F |
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This is not a counterclaim, so Rule 13(a) is not relevant. |
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| Review 7M YA | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Review 7M Y" |
Question
Which part of Rule 13?
Choices
| A | Rule 13(a) |
| B | Rule 13(b) |
| C | Rule 13(g) |
| D | Rule 13(h) |
Response
| A |
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No, this is not a compulsory counterclaim. |
| B |
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No, this is not a permissive counterclaim. |
| C |
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Yes, this is a cross-claim, but there is a more complete answer. Go back to the previous question and try again. After feedback jump to "Review 7M Y". |
| D |
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No. Go back and look at this rule more carefully! |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 7N | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Review 7" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | There is no authority under the rules |
| B | There is no subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | There is no personal jurisdiction |
Response
| A |
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I think you are wrong there. Take a look at the rules if necessary while we explore the possibility of joinder. After feedback jump to "Review 7Y". |
| B |
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If authority exists under the federal rules to bring the claim then I think you will find that supplemental jurisdiction will exist (assuming that some other form of jurisdiction does not exist). After feedback jump to "Review 7". |
| C |
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I have already told you to assume that personal jurisdiction exists. After feedback jump to "Review 7". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 7Y | Page type: Simple buttons | All Maybes | Next page: "Review 7Y 2" |
Question
You may be right, but I don't think you can be that definitive at this point.
Does the nature of the claims being brought by either party matter at all?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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If that is so, then Bumbling and Notrump cannot bring just any claims between them into this litigation, right? After feedback jump to "Review 7Y 2". |
| No |
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Jump straight to "Review 7Y 2". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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Question
Suppose Bumbling has a claim against Notrump relating to a project that was completed 6 months ago and is unrelated to the Notrump Gardens project. Can Bumbling bring that claim at this point?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Jump straight to "Review 7Y 2B". |
| No |
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Correct. That should help you out with the next question. (It should also tell you that not all claims between the two can be brought.) After feedback jump to "Review 7M". |
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| Review 7Y 2B | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Contents" |
Question
Under what authority would you bring that claim?
Choices
| A | Rule 13(a) or Rule 13(b) |
| B | Rule 13(g) |
| C | Rule 14 |
| D | Rule 18 |
| E | Rule 19 |
| F | Supplemental jurisdiction |
Response
| A |
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This would not be considered a counterclaim. (They are not opposing parties.) |
| B |
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Although they are co-parties, this type of claim does not satisfy Rule 13(g) because it is not sufficiently related to the main claim. After feedback jump to "Review 7M". |
| C |
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Although these parties were brought into the action using Rule 14, that rule does not give the authority per se to bring this claim. After feedback jump to "Review 7M". |
| D |
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Rule 18 only permits joinder of claims between parties once you have a basis for making a claim between them. It does not give authority for making the claim in the first place. |
| E |
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No. They are already parties so Rule 19 is not applicable. |
| F |
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Supplemental jurisdiction is useful only if there is some authority in the rules for bringing the claim. After feedback jump to "Review 7M". |
Author notes
01/11/2007 DQ scoring is disabled.
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| Review 8N | Page type: List of choices | Scored | Next page: "Review 9" |
Question
Why not?
Choices
| A | No authority under the rules |
| B | No subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | No personal jurisdiction |
| D | No exclusive jurisdiction |
Response
| A |
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Sorry, but there is authority under the rules. After feedback jump to "Review 9". |
| B |
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I disagree. There is diversity between the parties to the claim and there is sufficient amount in controversy. After feedback jump to "Review 9". |
| C |
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Personal jurisdiction is assumed to exist over all parties. After feedback jump to "Review 9". |
| D |
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This concept has no applicability here. You definitely could use some review! After feedback jump to "Review 9". |
| Shared response |
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I'm going to send you to the next question now, without giving you the "correct" answer to this one, because I think you will see from the next question what the correct answer should be. |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Review 9" | [TOP] |
| Review 8Y | Page type: Short answer | Not scored | Next page: "Review 9" |
Question
What is the basis under the federal rules for bringing this claim? (Type out a rule or words describing your answer in the box below)
Response
Short phrases to test against user's answer
| contains any of these word(s) " 13"" thirteen"" counterclaim"" counter" |
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This is neither a counterclaim nor a cross claim. |
| contains any of these word(s) " 14"" fourteen"" implead" |
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Good. Rule 14 expressly permits this type of claim. After feedback jump to "Review 9". |
| contains any of these word(s) " 18"" eighteen"" joinder" |
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No. Rule 18 says nothing about such claims. |
| contains any of these word(s) " 20"" twenty"" parties" |
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No, we are not adding parties here, just claims. Rule 20 only deals with adding parties. |
| If unrecognized answer |
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I don't understand your answer. Hint: Try one of these -- Rule 13 Rule 14 Rule 18 Rule 20 |
Hints
| Hint 1 | Hint: Try one of these -- Rule 13 Rule 14 Rule 18 Rule 20 |
| Next page: "Review 9" | [TOP] |
| Review 9E | Page type: Book page | Not scored | Next page: "Review 10" |
Text
Even though section 1367(a) is satisfied here, section 1367(b) is not. The original claim is founded solely on diversity. Therefore, additional claims by plaintiff under Rule 14 can only be brought to the extent that they are not inconsistent with the requirements of diversity jurisdiction under section 1332. In a case called Owen Equipment v. Kroger (decided before sec. 1367 was enacted) the Supreme Court held that a claim of this sort, by a plaintiff against a third-party defendant, did violate diversity and could not use the ancillary (supplemental) jurisdiction of the federal court. When Congress enacted sec. 1367, it left the result of Owen Equipment intact. Therefore, this claim cannot be brought under supplemental jurisdiction.
| Next page: "Review 10" | [TOP] |
| Review 9N | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Review 9E" |
Question
Why can't this claim be brought?
Choices
| A | No subject matter jurisdiction |
| B | No personal jurisdiction |
| C | No authority under the federal rules |
Response
| A |
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That's correct, although it might appear that supplemental jurisdiction does exist here. After feedback jump to "Review 9E". |
| B |
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Personal jurisdiction is assumed to exist here! |
| C |
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No. Rule 14(a) specifically gives authority for a claim by a plaintiff against a third-party defendant. (Perhaps you were thinking that the claim is not sufficiently related? Well, it does relate to the same project and undoubtedly would pass the Rule 14 test.) |
| Next page: "Review 9E" | [TOP] |
| Review 9Y | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Review 10" |
Question
Well, it is certainly true that Rule 14 permits Lackluster to bring this claim. What is the basis for subject matter jurisdiction?
Choices
| A | Federal Question |
| B | Diversity |
| C | Supplemental jurisdiction |
| D | I made a mistake - the answer should be "No" |
Response
| A |
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There is no federal question involved here. After feedback jump to "Review 9E". |
| B |
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The parties are not diverse; they are both from New York. After feedback jump to "Review 9E". |
| C |
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That's a thought. The claim is related to the original claim as required by section 1367. However, there is a problem with supplemental jurisdiction, as you will see when you continue. |
| D |
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Jump straight to "Review 9N". |
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| Next page: "Review 10" | [TOP] |
| Review 10N | Page type: List of choices | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Review 10Y" |
Question
What do you see as the problem?
Choices
| A | No authority under the rules |
| B | No subject matter jurisdiction |
| C | I made a mistake - I meant to answer YES |
Response
| A |
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Go back and look at the rules, then answer the next question. Believe me, there is ample authority under the rules. After feedback jump to "Review 10Y". |
| B |
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Jump straight to "Review 10Y". |
| C |
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Jump straight to "Review 10Y". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Review 10Y" | [TOP] |
| Review 10Y | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Review 10YD" |
Question
Which rule(s) give you the authority to bring this claim?
Choices
| A | Rule 13 |
| B | Rule 14 |
| C | Rule 24 |
| D | Rules 13 and 14 |
| E | Rules 13, 14 and 24 |
| F | Rules 13, 14, 18 and 24 |
Response
| A |
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Not a bad answer. It is a counterclaim. But there is a better answer available. |
| B |
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Indirectly Rule 14 does permit this claim. But there is a better answer than this one. |
| C |
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Intervention is not at all relevant to this question. |
| D |
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Correct. Rule 14 tells you that you can bring your counterclaims and Rule 13 provides specific authority for counterclaims. After feedback jump to "Review 10YD". |
| E |
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Rule 24 is irrelevant to this question, so this answer cannot be correct. |
| F |
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Rule 24 is irrelevant to this question, so this answer cannot be correct. |
| Next page: "Review 10YD" | [TOP] |
| Review 10YD | Page type: List of choices | All Maybes | Next page: "Review 11" |
Question
Now we have established that there is authority under the rules for this claim (and subject matter clearly exists). Must Bumbling bring this claim?
Choices
| A | Yes, in all cases. Such claims are compulsory. |
| B | Yes, in some circumstances |
| C | No. |
Response
| A |
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I don't think the answer is so definite. You need more information to be sure. After feedback jump to "Review 11". |
| B |
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That answer is worth some more explication. After feedback jump to "Review 11". |
| C |
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I think you will find that this is not necessarily true. Let's explore the possibilities. After feedback jump to "Review 11". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Review 11" | [TOP] |
| Review 11-13 | Page type: Simple buttons | Mixed Scoring | Next page: "Review 11U" |
Question
Do you view this as a cross-claim or a counterclaim?
Choices
Cross-claim or CounterclaimResponse
| Cross-claim |
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Cross-claims are by definition permissive, not compulsory. Go back and try again. (And are they co-parties in the first place?) After feedback jump to "Review 11U". |
| Counterclaim |
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You need to be a bit more specific, though that is certainly on the right track. Try once again. After feedback jump to "Review 11U". |
Author notes
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| Next page: "Review 11U" | [TOP] |
| Review 11U | Page type: List of choices | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Review 12" |
Question
Choose one of these:
Choices
| A | If it is a claim permitted by Rule 13 |
| B | If there is supplemental jurisdiction over the claim |
| C | If the claim arises from the same transaction as the third-party claim |
| D | If the claim is related to the third-party claim |
Response
| A |
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Jump straight to "Review 11-13". |
| B |
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If the claim is compulsory, then it almost certainly will have supplemental jurisdiction. However, you need to explain why it is compulsory. Try again. |
| C |
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That's a good answer. If it arises from the same transaction or occurrence as the third-party claim then it will be a compulsory counterclaim to that claim. Rule 14 says you should abide by Rule 13 and Rule 13(a) makes it mandatory. After feedback jump to "Review 12". |
| D |
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This is the essence of the answer, but I would like you to use the proper language. Try once again. |
| Next page: "Review 12" | [TOP] |
| Review 12N | Page type: Simple buttons | Scored Score group: Totals | Next page: "Review 12N-2" |
Question
Is there authority under the federal rules for Notrump to make this claim?
Choices
Yes or NoResponse
| Yes |
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Right. Rule 14 permits a third-party defendant to make a claim against a plaintiff as long as it arises out of the same transaction or occurrence as the main claim. Although one might argue that Notrump's claim is not directly related to the main claim, they are sufficiently related such that a court most likely would find that Rule 14 permits this claim. After feedback jump to "Review 12N-2". |
| No |
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